Comment · Sun, January 14, 2024 · ND Owner
Caps on the bottles
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Bionickiwi · 12 points
For the past two orders some of my nootropics have faulty caps. They easily overscrew when attempting to close the cap. Any solutions for this?
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SocratesDingdong · 2 points
Thanks for the reply, and that totally makes sense for products like Dynamax. However, other products like Vignatex (Natrium style lid) and 4DMA (tiny bottle regular lid) also seem like they could be pretty dangerous for a child even if they were to pop a small amount of pills, and no childproofing there. I could be wrong about that danger tho. Furthermore, none of the powders have childproofing at all, including NALT which you mentioned.
I know you have more valuable things to do with your time than to debate this with me 😆 suffice it to say that I support the packaging revamp! I have so many ND products, I would love to be able to differentiate them more easily. For example, love the Tongkat 10% and the Nigella 10% labels for the vold coloring.
This is all likely (mostly) inconsequential to the average buyer, but to an Ultra like me who spends literal $thousands at ND each year, I do appreciate the time you took to respond and for now will happily continue with the de-childproofing hack that got posted here yesterday 🤠
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Yeah, Natrium is another beast. We had originally intended Natrium to be totally separate from ND. We spent a year trying to get it into stores and build up its own following, but we had to admit defeat. That's when we learned about all the middle men involved with selling through stores. Our products cost too much. Distributors want 50% margins to even get you into their store networks, and then the stores want at least 20-30% margins themselves. You have to cut on product costs to give enough margins to all the middle men. Then other brands will pay distributors to keep you out of stores. It's a whole racket. We decided to go back to what we knew best, which was online B2C. This is when we put all the Natrium products on ND. Now almost everybody just buys Natrium stuff through ND instead of the main Natrium site. However, it was never intended to be this way. We just had to pivot. Then we decided to make all stacks Natrium, and all normal products ND. Even then, the lines are blurred. Solutions are Natrium, but some simple stacks like Caffeine/NALT are ND. I admit it doesn't always make sense.
I have so many ND products, I would love to be able to differentiate them more easily. For example, love the Tongkat 10% and the Nigella 10% labels for the bold coloring.
The issue we are having now is that we have so many products, we are running out of unique colors that set them apart. When we have different ratios or dosing, we flip the colors from the main one. This is why the 10% Nigella is dark, and why the 10% Tongkat is dark. They are flipped colors. Still, I really want to move to a 3 panel design like Natrium. The brain design takes up so much space that we always have trouble fitting all the info on ND labels. The main issue is the size of our catalog now. A redesign is infinitely more complex because we have over 1,000 SKUs. Not to mention that while our current design is not the most efficient, you can't disagree that it is recognizable. If you see one of our bottles, you immediately know it is ND. I worry that if we redesign, we would lose that immediate recognition we have now.