Comment · Mon, August 21, 2023 · ND Owner
Pregnenolone with Sorbitol issue.
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h2oape · 3 points
Pregnenolone has become a foundational product in my stack, however I've discovered Sorbitol (a sugar alcohol sweetener) makes me itch to the point of distraction.
ND only offers it with Sorbitol, and knowing it's unlikely they'll produce a product just for rare cases like mine, I'd like to ask what brand(s) would those more knowledgeable than me recommend I try?
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wavyeggs · 1 points
This is frustrating for me as well. I wish they offered just powder of everything they have, as I prefer to limit the intake of any sweeteners, processed sugars like maltodextrin, etc. I love most of the phytosomes (Boswellia, Berberine) but they use sunflower lecithin, which is better than soy but it could be emulsified with something else. Primavie has maltodextrin. I should say I know this is due to the patents requiring these makeups, but I wish ND would offer “their own” of everything with absolutely nothing else but the listed ingredient (that can be powdered, I understand the soft gels and whatnot). Even then, their ginger and a few of their other products have fillers or extra ingredients like maltodextrin.
For me the benefits of the guaranteed contents and the actual benefits of the products generally outweigh the small amount of things I’d prefer not to consume. But I do hope at some point they can offer things in their simplest form, because I think a lot of people are turning up health conscious and limiting all kinds of processed things.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Sunflower lecithin is literally in all phytosomes... That's what makes them a phytosome. The same for liposomes. That's the phospholipid used in all those types of formulations. We don't add it in there.
but it could be emulsified with something else.
What else? Phytosomes are a plant active complexed with lecithin. The lecithin being present is what increases the bioavailability. Without the lecithin, it's not a phytomsome, and no longer has improved bioavailability.
Primavie has maltodextrin.
All Primavie has maltodextrin. It's part of the patented formula from Natreon. We are just honest and list it, while some of our competitors lie and leave it off. We do not add it in there.
Even then, their ginger and a few of their other products have fillers or extra ingredients like maltodextrin.
Ginger is an oil or resin at high concentrations. You need to spray dry it with a carrier for it to be a powder. It's not just an extra ingredient we throw in for no reason. It's a critical part of what makes up the product itself. All powdered ginger extracts have a carrier. The same goes for soy lecithin and ascorbyl palmatate in Longvida. That's in all Longvida. It's part of the patented formula. Same story there: we list it, but competitors lie and leave it off.
But I do hope at some point they can offer things in their simplest form, because I think a lot of people are turning up health conscious and limiting all kinds of processed things.
What is a "processed thing?" Merely by extracting and standardizing our ginger extract we are processing it. Phytosomes are processed. That's why they are better. The process makes them better. Primavie and Longvida are processed. All standardized extracts are processed. Processing is how you remove the heavy metals naturally present in some of these things. Selling pure shalajit from the Himalayas would result in high levels of lead and arsenic. Processing bacopa allows us to remove the lead that is naturally high in the plant. Processing is what makes products safer, more effective, and more consistent.