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Comment · Sun, June 12, 2022 · ND Owner

Lab Testing Results Of Turkesterone, Beta Ecdysterone, and Gorilla Mind Sigma

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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 866 points

Okay, so I am finally getting around to make a post about the results of some of the lab testing we have been doing. I've had the results for a bit, but I've been holding off on officially releasing them because frankly it stresses me out these days. It's the same song and dance every time, and it is one I have been doing for a decade now. I release results showing other products are not what they claim, then people attack me and claim I am lying to sell more product. Sometimes the attacks are relatively harmless, and just raise my blood pressure a bit for a day or two. Other times they are death threats to me, my family, and my team. It's not fun sometimes. You'll notice I don't do this nearly as much as I did back in the day on /r/Nootropics. I was younger and more gung-ho then, and had a lot less on my plate. Plus, my family and team kind of pleaded with me to stop doing it so much because of all the attacks and threats. This is why I have not been releasing things like this as much these days. It's not because product quality magically got better in the industry, I can tell you that much! Anyway, let's just get into it.

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Hrachim · 3 points

Do you have any posts where you have mentioned which brands have actually lived up to their labels (or reasonably close to the label claims)?

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

The main issue is that every single brand we have tested so far has had at least one thing fail, save for Thorne. Some of the brands have almost everything fail. Others like Life Extension, Jarrow, and NOW have most things pass with only some failing. It's a crap shoot. At some point I want to start an industry association/nonprofit where we go out and test everyone's product, then just post up the results for everyone to see. Right now we are really doing a lot of industry testing on products we are working on, so that the sample load flows through our lab. I only have so many machines, lab techs, and hours in the day. We have to pick and choose which projects to take on first. We also have to set our dosing and pricing, which is hard when most of the competitors in the space selling a specific thing are massively under-dosing from their label claims. It makes us look expensive, when we are actually the cheapest many times. My ultimate dream is to expand our lab even more, then have all the extra bandwidth we need to run the nonprofit testing service full time. I really do just want to see this industry change for the better. I was a consumer in this industry before I ever started this company, and I was buying from shit companies doing no testing just like many of you. It pisses me off what I have learned over the years! People are putting this shit into their bodies! They need to at least know what is on the label is in the product.

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