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Comment · Sun, June 12, 2022 · ND Owner

Lab Testing Results Of Turkesterone, Beta Ecdysterone, and Gorilla Mind Sigma

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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 866 points

Okay, so I am finally getting around to make a post about the results of some of the lab testing we have been doing. I've had the results for a bit, but I've been holding off on officially releasing them because frankly it stresses me out these days. It's the same song and dance every time, and it is one I have been doing for a decade now. I release results showing other products are not what they claim, then people attack me and claim I am lying to sell more product. Sometimes the attacks are relatively harmless, and just raise my blood pressure a bit for a day or two. Other times they are death threats to me, my family, and my team. It's not fun sometimes. You'll notice I don't do this nearly as much as I did back in the day on /r/Nootropics. I was younger and more gung-ho then, and had a lot less on my plate. Plus, my family and team kind of pleaded with me to stop doing it so much because of all the attacks and threats. This is why I have not been releasing things like this as much these days. It's not because product quality magically got better in the industry, I can tell you that much! Anyway, let's just get into it.

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M30MM100 · 1 points

Does anyone know if any other manufacturers have high quality supplements? Toniiq provides 3rd party certificates for all their stuff but the claims they make for their products seems outrageous and too good to be true. NOW, Life Extention, and Deal Supplement claim the same. 90% of my stack is from ND with the other 10% being NOW and Life Extension for stuff ND doesn’t carry. Also would be curious about Liftmode and NewMind.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Never buy from Toniiq. They have failed our testing so many times, and they were recently suspended from Amazon for violate the TOS on fake and compensated reviews. The owner went to Twitter to plead with Amazon to allow them back, and somehow he got his listing back up. Then somehow he got the reviews back. He deleted the post admitting to the review manipulation once Amazon put things back up.

NOW has their own in-house lab, and they have been trying to clean up the standards of the industry for a while. We have had a couple things of theirs fail, but only for content lower than label claim, not fake or impure or anything like that. So while I wouldn't say trust everything from them 100%, NOW is one of the better ones in this industry seemingly trying to make things better. I also have more trust for Thorne than most.

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