Comment · Sun, June 12, 2022 · ND Owner
Lab Testing Results Of Turkesterone, Beta Ecdysterone, and Gorilla Mind Sigma
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 866 points
Okay, so I am finally getting around to make a post about the results of some of the lab testing we have been doing. I've had the results for a bit, but I've been holding off on officially releasing them because frankly it stresses me out these days. It's the same song and dance every time, and it is one I have been doing for a decade now. I release results showing other products are not what they claim, then people attack me and claim I am lying to sell more product. Sometimes the attacks are relatively harmless, and just raise my blood pressure a bit for a day or two. Other times they are death threats to me, my family, and my team. It's not fun sometimes. You'll notice I don't do this nearly as much as I did back in the day on /r/Nootropics. I was younger and more gung-ho then, and had a lot less on my plate. Plus, my family and team kind of pleaded with me to stop doing it so much because of all the attacks and threats. This is why I have not been releasing things like this as much these days. It's not because product quality magically got better in the industry, I can tell you that much! Anyway, let's just get into it.
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johannthegoatman · 2 points
You guys have high prices but it's actually worth it, unlike all the Instagram companies drastically overcharging for garbage with "cool" marketing.
Obviously I don't know the financials, but it seems like you could let other people sell your brand. Like epicor, ksm66, or primavie do. And keep a ND logo and name on the package. Because you guys are actually trustworthy. And it would expand your reach considerably (in my dumb opinion). I work in marketing though haha so I'm always looking at things with that lens. Whatever you do, thanks for existing.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Our of curiosity, what do you think we high priced on? We actually keep margins very thin on most things, and often times we are the cheapest in the world for things. We do price comparisons and analysis for everything we bring out. Many times there might be someone cheaper, but then we test it in the lab and it is not real or not what they claim on the label. Some things we definitely are a bit higher, but that's just because our costs can't let us go lower. There are some things out there where the prices other brands are charging don't make mathematical sense. Almost every time we test we learn that's because they have half of what they claim, or even less. Patented stuff is one where we usually are a bit higher priced, but that's because the patent holders set their pricing high, then we still have to go through our whole battery of testing. I won't just take the patent holder's word for it. We do all the normal testing no matter the raw material we use, so that adds to the cost. Also, there is some shady shit in the patented side of things, too. We have caught the patent holders themselves selling products with less than they claim on the label! It's a sticky situation there, though. They can pull our access to that ingredient if we make too many waves, so we have to be careful biting the hand that is supplying us. It's fucking crazy, though!