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CommentMon, July 6, 2020 路 Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

Testing reveals, many CoQ10 / SAMe supplements contain almost no active ingredients, despite label claims.

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ProperBeat284 points

Supplement manufacturer NOW reports that of the 10 CoQ10 and SAMe products it subjected to analytical testing, only a few came close to meeting the label claims. Most products contained nothing useful or very little. The company purchased 10 CoQ10 products and 10 SAMe products and tested them to assess how much of the respective active ingredients they contained.

https://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Article/2020/05/14/CoQ10-SAMe-products-sold-on-Amazon-fail-potency-tests

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MakeWay4Doodles-2 points

You are now a provider. You are not a cult leader. If you can't handle someone suggesting that people do their own due diligence then maybe you're too sensitive to be selling products people consume?

What I said about you I would say about any person or organization that sells supplements regardless of their reputation. Do you feel that your participation on this sub somehow puts you beyond scrutiny?

Again, I wasn't passing judgement on you personally or your business so you can stop acting like you've been accosted.

Any time someone is putting anything into their body from any organization they should do their own due diligence and be wary about biases in anything they read from a provider. If you disagree with this then maybe I should start passing judgement on you and your business. 馃

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb 路 Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

How do you suggest individuals do their own due diligence here? Fire up their HPLC at home and do a quick assay with their reference standards they have in cold storage? Any normal consumer is going to have to place their trust in someone to give them results, because they can't do their own due diligence. Saying that people should do their own due diligence is a hollow statement when you know they practically can't do that themselves. What do you practically suggest that normal people do to achieve this due diligence in an instance such as this? From everything you can publicly find, NOW should be good every time. Anything that a consumer would have access to would make it seem like there is nothing to worry about with NOW. Even I thought NOW's results would come back good. So what should they do in this instance, if trusting results I post is out the door?

And what exactly are you scrutinizing? You said you were not attacking me, but now you are saying that I am acting like I am above scrutiny. So that means something was scrutinized. So what was it? Is there something specific that leads you to think the statements I have made cannot be trusted? I don't think I am above scrutiny, but I need to actually see some fleshed out scrutiny to address it.

Acting like I am trying to be a cult leader is just a strawman. That's not how someone discusses with people in good faith. Also, you say you were just telling people to do their due diligence, but where did you say that? The only thing I see is you accusing me of posting those results to market a competing product.

And when the person doing the testing is doing so explicitly to market a directly competing product.

That's what you said. That's all you said. Nothing telling people to do their own due diligence. No suggestions on how people can actually get the answers they need. No factual response about the lab results I posted. Just a fleeting statement meant to cast doubt on the trustworthiness of my statements. You are more than free to post general statements calling into question someone's honesty, but you can't feign ignorance when the subject of that accusation directly addresses that claim.

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