Comment · Mon, July 6, 2020 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
Testing reveals, many CoQ10 / SAMe supplements contain almost no active ingredients, despite label claims.
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ProperBeat · 284 points
Supplement manufacturer NOW reports that of the 10 CoQ10 and SAMe products it subjected to analytical testing, only a few came close to meeting the label claims. Most products contained nothing useful or very little. The company purchased 10 CoQ10 products and 10 SAMe products and tested them to assess how much of the respective active ingredients they contained.
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MakeWay4Doodles · 0 points
You seem to have take what I said as a personal attack, which you shouldn't. Folks should do their due diligence on any supplier of anything they put in their body.
If you think I am lying about testing results
I don't. I don't know anything about you. I'm only pointing out the potential for bias which is extremely relevant in this context.
you have no idea who I actually am
Exactly
Me throwing my reputation in the trash for some milk thistle sales? It's asinine!
It is, yet we're discussing the possibility that NOW is doing exay that so...
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
You seem to have take what I said as a personal attack, which you shouldn't. Folks should do their due diligence on any supplier of anything they put in their body.
I mean, bringing up that point can only be done to introduce uncertainty into the statements I am making. You're trying to cast doubt on the validity of my statements, which directly attacks my honesty. Either I am lying or I am telling the truth. Trying to qualify things to people can only be done to cast doubt on the statements themselves. Your statement was meant to cast doubt on whether people could trust what I was saying.
It is, yet we're discussing the possibility that NOW is doing exay that so...
NOW is huge. They didn't knowingly do this. They messed up somewhere along the manufacturing process. I highly doubt they are purposely under-dosing milk thistle. There was a breakdown in their quality systems. That's hardly the same as willfully lying to people about a competitor to sell more of a product we have not even released yet... Can you see how it can be taken as an attack? If my statements were false, that means I am willfully misleading people to sell product. That's infinitely worse than having a breakdown in your quality systems. One is a mistake. The other is willful. This is why I feel attacked, because when you break it down that's the only way I could interpret it.
I've used NOW for years. I have suggested and told people to use NOW for years. I have literally championed them and called them one of the good guys for years. My lab director even met with and had good conversations with NOW's method development scientist at last year's AOAC conference, and said she was a very smart woman. I had no reason to question whether NOW would pass. This result disappoints me more than anyone. To call my motivations into question like I am just trying to sell more product, milk thistle of all things, cheapens everything I have tried to do for this community. I am literally one of the only people fighting this fight for everyone here, and I constantly have my motivations and honesty called into question. So yes, it feels like I am constantly attacked for trying to do some good for everyone here.