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Comment · Sun, July 23, 2023 · ND Owner

Could someone help me understand how ND Berberine compares to Thorne's Berberine?

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SnackyFace · 8 points

Here are the two products:

- https://nootropicsdepot.com/berberine-phytosome-capsules-550mg/

- https://www.thorne.com/products/dp/berberine-500

Obviously more numbers doesn't mean more better. However, Thorne has a 550mg Berberine Phytosome like ND does, and 450mg more of Berberine HCl while ND does not.

Can someone explain if this is a significant difference in products and what Thorne is trying to accomplish compared to ND? Thorne doesn't say it has 28% Berberine in the complex so I guess theoretically the number is lower compared to ND? How does the 450mg of the Berberine HCl alter the equation? Is this a matter of one product is superior to the other, or are they both designed for different purposes?

I figured I'd ask here because someone has probably done the comparison before. I tend to go to ND first for a product and go to Thorne/somewhere else if ND doesn't offer. This caught my attention and I figured someone else might benefit from this information, too.

Thanks!

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SnackyFace · 2 points

Very interesting, thanks for the feedback!

Would it be safer to say the ND Berberine/Silymarin is more effective than the ND Phytosome, but the ND Phytosome is better tolerated by consumers? If the ND Berb/Sily is similarly or better tolerated than the phytosome, what would motivate me to get the ND Phytosome vs the Berb/Sily?

By the way, I saw the bright red warning on the Berb/Sily product, which I think is terrific for its transparency in the product!

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

I wouldn't say more effective. I would say the phytosome smooths out the absorption of it, allowing for less dosing. The berberine HCL/Silymarin you really take 3X per day. You can do 1-2X per day of the phytosome, as it spreads the effects out.

Berberine tastes like a penny dipped in bile, so I wanted to warn people about the taste of the tablets! We have them in capsules now as well, which prevents the flavor issue.

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