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Comment · Wed, May 4, 2016 · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

Thoughts on anti-aging supplement Elysium?

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panacizma · 1 points

The price seems to be the main issue with this compound, especially considering nicotinamide may achieve similar goals for pennies on the dollar. I wouldn't really consider it something you'd "feel", by increasing NAD+ you are really just seeking to mimic a beneficial metabolic state. I'm sure there are blood metrics you could track in order to assess any effect, but even those may be too subtle to really pick up on. Curious, why do you think Elysium is dumb? Do you see NR as a dead end? I'm a big believer in the Mitochondrial theory of aging and was impressed with Elysium's conclusion in targeting SIRT1/AMPK. What is up for debate is whether the two compounds they have chosen are the best candidates to do this, but it's a good starting point [IMO].

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

I wouldn't really consider it something you'd "feel", by increasing NAD+ you are really just seeking to mimic a beneficial metabolic state.

True; just like you would not feel vitamin C binding to oxidative substances in the body. It could be beneficial, just not leading to acute subjective effects. It could also benefit some people, while not others. I am relatively young and healthy. Perhaps I am not one that would benefit from it at the moment.

Curious, why do you think Elysium is dumb?

Because it's just an overpriced mix of two compounds that you can get elsewhere. If you are going to create a mitochondrial support stack, there are so many other compounds with more research behind them. Perhaps I am just being grumpy, but I would have gone a different direction with it.

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