Comment · Wed, July 16, 2014 · Ceretropic
Sunifiram brain damage?
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sunifiramvictim · 14 points
Hello,
I ordered some sunifiram from NSN a while ago, I was excited about some reviews saying it really has effects unlike piracetam which for me has no effect.
I started with a 1mg dose and used the Shulgin protocol.
2, 4, 8, until I reached the dose of 512mg which apparently destroyed my brain.
First I had a feeling of wellbeing with the low dosage.
Starting from 64mg I had bouts of anxiety and I could only sleep for 3 hours a day, at 256mg all the world seemed so slow time was extremely slow, 1 min was lasting 10 real mins but in reality my brain was very speedy and my movements were extremely fast to the other people.
My eyes were dilated and my body temp was very high.
This was supposed to make me stop dosing, but I wanted to push it to the limit because i actually liked this effect.
At 512mg my heart was pounding and beating at 130 while resting!
My brain was running too fast, I had extreme anxiety, and then came the worst, I had a pins and needles sensation, I felt like my body was under deadly vasoconstriction, I started seeing purple spots in my vision field, so I shouted and my friend called an ambulance to get me to the ER.
I didn't want to pass a drug junkie…
What they were answering
shrillthrill · 22 points
Retrospectively, would anything have convinced you to not use sunifiram?
I made a post about it over a year ago: "I continue to discourage personal use until the drug is proved to be safe." - Fulvio Gualtieri, former researcher on sunifiram. but given the nature of reddit, it dropped off the frontpage after a few days.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
Maybe he took my comments to heart. After trying sunifiram, I take a different stance now. It is a dirty nootropic, and has a lot of ancillary side effects. The evidence from studies still points to it being safe. However, the effects I got from it say otherwise. There was even that guy on Longecity that went to the hospital mixing it with large doses of caffeine. Granted that seems to be the issue: mixing it with other stimulants, or taking very large doses of it. However, even low doses gave me unwanted side effects.
Unifiram seems to be a cleaner version. The only reason they made sunifiram is to save on synth costs. That's not a very good reason to take a substance. I have yet to try unifiram, but I think I will try some in a few minutes. I am curious to compare the subjective effects to what I got from sunifiram.