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Comment · Mon, September 16, 2024 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

A Potential New Nootropic (SYNTHESISED AND TRIED) results

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cmnews08 · 339 points

If you didn't see the original, take a look here

Anyways, to start let me post the synthesis.

Piperidinil synthesis

I chose to not include the dichloro aspect of the original post as I knew it would cause serotonin interactions and that's where the potential harm could be, I didn't want to create a serotonin reuptake inhibitor which is what I theorised the dichloro would cause.

Let me say, this synthesis took a lot of money, time and effort before I got a good yield. I am working on a more cost and time effective synthesis.

I synthesised this from a base chemical, Phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)methanol, which is pricey at about $200 (£152.38) a gram. Leaving little room for error.

Reacting this with thiourea and Chloroethane gave an intermediate with deaminated to a product that could be reacted carefully with Sulfuryl chloride, Ammonia and Hydrogen peroxide would give the chemical I wanted.

I failed 5 times before I got it right, costing me close to $700 (£530), however I finally…

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Numerous_Mammoth838 · 9 points

Nope, I'm quite sure it's considered state-of-the-art and a patent will be denied.
You have 1 year (priority period) to update your initial filing and file it in other countries, but an application must seek to patent something that is novel, industrially applicable and non-obvious. If anything has been published anywhere before your initial application date it is not considered novel anymore and you cannot patent it.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

You are correct. Publicizing it here invalidated the novelty. He would have to have filed a provisional before making it public, and then he would have 1 year to finalize it into a non-provisional patent.

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