Comment · Thu, February 15, 2024 · ND Owner
Lions mane/erinamax and tigers milk combo
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okaycat · 5 points
Hi guys
Posted this in the general nootropics subreddit as well.
I’m currently taking erinamax/lions mane and tigers milk in hopes that it would help my mood and cognitive function. I’m bipolar so I deal pretty significantly with those issues. Especially since manic episodes tend to cause brain damage long term.
I’ve been on erinamax for a week and a half now and on tigers milk for five days.
I’ve heard it’s a great combo for neurogenesis in the brain and helps with mood and cognition pretty quickly. At least compared to regular lions mane.
However all I’ve noticed is insomnia and maybe feeling a bit foggy? I do think music sounds better but that could just be a placebo.
So anyone have any experience with this combo? Thoughts?
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ozdoz71 · 1 points
Thanks. I wasn't sure if that was just a certified organic mark.
So as I can understand the 'organic' mark certifies that it's free from toxins, pesticides and whatever, but how can this be tested without a proper identity test? Sorry, I am a newb at chemistry.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Crazy thing is, the certified organic mark doesn't even do that! They don't even do lab testing on that certification! Certified organic is about processes. They certify that your sourcing processes are such that you are only using ingredients that are certified organic. They literally just look at paperwork. It's really a big racket, to be honest. When a farm gets certified organic, they just have to show they are not using any pesticides or herbicides that are not allowed. Then when a brand gets certified organic down the line, they have to show that they are only sourcing from certified organic suppliers. No actual analytical lab testing is taking place on the brand side to prove that, though. There is one onsite inspection every year, but they don't have any lab equipment, or do any actual testing on equipment. They look at documentation and verify compliance.
The reason I'm asking is because these certificates say they are certified for trade in the EU. Meaning you would assume that extensive testing has been done to make sure that these products contain the correct compounds and not similar ones, which might be toxic, and also you would assume that this means they have to follow the other laws regarding what the product is being sold as.
You would think that, but nah. Brands bank on consumers thinking this. It's the same for NSF Certified For Sport. Everyone thinks that means that NSF has completely tested the product to make sure it is real, pure, and doesn't contain banned substances. NOPE! You can sell a completely fake product riddled with toxins, and it could still be NSF Certified For Sport. As long as you don't have any banned substances in it, then you get the mark. Could be totally fake and riddled with strychnine. They don't test for ID or purity. Shit's crazy, right?
We actually had a call today with some certification agencies about it. We are starting a nonprofit consumer protection agency right now. My whole mission has been to advance the lab testing and quality control standards of the supplement industry since I started this company almost 11 years ago. I've built an insanely capable lab over the years. However, many of our competitors just try to poison the well by saying we are only releasing results to sell more product, or that you can't trust what we are saying. They say you should trust their fake labs over our ISO accredited lab, just because I own a company selling supplements. I got fed up being attacked by competitors for trying to actually make positive change in this industry, so I am passing the torch off. I am funding the startup of this nonprofit, but I am not going to be a part of the board. I won't be a part of it at all. I have a group of people from across the industry that are going to be on the board, and they will run this nonprofit themselves. It will be dedicated to going out and testing products from all the brands, then releasing the results for the public to see. That doesn't exist right now. The two that do it, Lab Door and Consumer Lab, are for-profit companies that I no longer have confidence in their objectivity. It needs to be a nonprofit to eliminate bias completely. I was going to be on the board, but I really am sick of people calling my motivations into question, so I am not going to be on it at all. I will help fund it and donate to it, but it will be a completely separate team of people from a bunch of companies and other industry orgs all coming together to form the board. They will then run it, and try to help clean up this industry. It's sorely needed.
So anyway, the real story would surprise most consumers. This whole industry is a den of lies and deceit. If people knew the half of what I know, they would be livid. I hate even being a part of it, to be honest. I've always wanted to make the best products possible, and force change in the industry. Hell, half of what we do is because I want to develop products for myself to use. However, I am rapidly approaching the point where I am going to burn out and be done with it all. Someday soon, I will get out for good. Then I will spill the beans on the whole thing to everyone. I have a lot of stories to tell!