Comment · Fri, February 16, 2024 · ND Owner
Lions mane/erinamax and tigers milk combo
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okaycat · 5 points
Hi guys
Posted this in the general nootropics subreddit as well.
I’m currently taking erinamax/lions mane and tigers milk in hopes that it would help my mood and cognitive function. I’m bipolar so I deal pretty significantly with those issues. Especially since manic episodes tend to cause brain damage long term.
I’ve been on erinamax for a week and a half now and on tigers milk for five days.
I’ve heard it’s a great combo for neurogenesis in the brain and helps with mood and cognition pretty quickly. At least compared to regular lions mane.
However all I’ve noticed is insomnia and maybe feeling a bit foggy? I do think music sounds better but that could just be a placebo.
So anyone have any experience with this combo? Thoughts?
What they were answering
ozdoz71 · 1 points
Now they've edited the page you linked to as well and they posted a Eurofins result which shows tests for EGCG being done on a Lion's Mane sample for "polyphenols".
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
Total polyphenols are meaningless as a standardization, especially as Eurofins tested in that report. They just did a total polyphenols test with a UV-VIS, and used EGCG as the calibration standard. You can spike with polyphenols to pump the numbers up. Hell, I could just put EGCG in there to make it seem high. That's actually happening with some Ecklonia cava on the market we tested. They are spiking with cheap green tea extracts to make the polyphenols number look higher, and then claiming it is Ecklonia cava polyphenols. You can do the same thing with lion's mane. Eurofins doesn't care about the validity of the test. They will test whatever sample you want to send them with whatever method you want. Doesn't mean it has any meaning for the product in question. Total polyphenols is an inappropriate test methodology for lion's mane, especially by using the response factor from EGCG as the quantification calibration.
Also, if you look at their glucan report, their lion's mane has 25% alpha glucans (starches). That's exactly what you would find with mycelium grown on grain. I know the exact Chinese supplier they are getting this lion's mane from. It's the same people we yelled at for making fake standardization claims, and who admitted to us they know they are fake.