Comment · Tue, August 29, 2023 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
new research on the lion's mane
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Conscious-Item-1633 · 79 points
What they were answering
Conscious-Item-1633 · 3 points
Thanks, very important information!
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
If you follow our mushroom project, it's been a long 8 years of work to get to where we are. I've spent multiple millions of dollars on building a lab and staffing it with scientists. There have been many frustrating times where the science just was not working, or we were not finding the actives we expected in the raw materials we had access to. We just couldn't control the actual raw mushroom unless we did it all ourselves, so I built a grow room, and we started growing tons of different species and strains of Hericium. Only with that were we able to finally find these compounds and concentrate enough of them to make reference standards to test with. We have tons of hericene A now, so we can quantify that in samples easily. We are working on the isohericerin. What most people don't realize is that these things are just not found naturally in most lion's mane out there. It's only in certain strains from certain regions. In fact, we are finding that sometimes you have to go outside the erinaceus species altogether, and branch out into other Hercium species to find larger amounts of these compounds. Then you have the variable of grow conditions. Substrate chemistry and environmental conditions massively affect the amounts of actives made. We are experimenting with oxygen/CO2 fluctuations during the day, like you would have in a natural forest. In a natural forest you have light cycles. It's not just dark 24/7. You have sounds and stressors that the mushrooms experience. You also have different soil chemistries that the trees are growing in, which affects what is in the tree that the mushroom itself is growing on. People like to simplify things down to very simple parts. This lion's mane paper says this, so that applies to any product I can buy online that calls itself lion's mane. However, nature is much more complex than that, and there is always a lot more to the story than initially meets the eye. We've even proven some research papers wrong now. People should be careful to take what they read in a published paper as gospel. There is a lot of pressure in the scientific community to publish at all costs. Sometimes this results in bad data going out for the sake of publishing a paper.
Here's a little teaser: https://imgur.com/a/LY0FORy
Probably the most advanced lion's mane extract in the world I am beta testing right now!