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Comment · Fri, July 8, 2022 · ND Owner

My optimum androgenic + dopaminergic stack (only 2 supps)

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mrjasonbbc · 70 points

I've played with supps for some two decades and have arrived at a very interesting, very effective and very simple stack for increasing total androgen production and preserving an above normal feeling of dopaminergic tone. This is hands down my favorite stack and don't foresee stopping it anytime soon.

TL;DR: 200-300mg of ND cistanche combined with 100-200mg of agmatine sulphate right before bed and eat ample nutruent dense calories.

THE SCIENCE:

Cistanche targets multiple steroidogenic enzymes including StAR; increases spermatogenesis, testosterone, LH and progesterone; upregulates dopamine and downregulates cortisol; improves libido, erectile response and erectile latency in castrated rats; agonizes GABA; confers a broad range of anti aging and neuroprotective effects. Translation: Cistanche is the SHIT. No wonder it was Genghis Khan's herb of choice!

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/this-herb-is-stronger-than-tribulus.29991/

Agmatine provides broad neuroprotective, antidepressant, stress reducing benefits; inhibits GSK-3B, an enzyme that inhibits glycogen formation (FYI, cistanche also directly increases glycogen), prevents monoamine dysregulation when under stre…

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9qQ7oiJpPmjZ4F · 3 points

OK, you got me, added.

Would like to see a cistanche podcast if it's such a cool supplement :P

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

We probably will do one once we transition the podcast to video.

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