Comment · Tue, September 28, 2021 · ND Owner
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srubek · 4 points
All the greater reason to test it, and go from there, correct…?
I’m sorry if there was a misunderstanding. I’m not sure what this body of information is meant to convey, because of the agreed upon offer you made to test it, anyway. Perhaps I’m misunderstanding, now. This is much conjecture. I never had any issue with your product. I never asserted that it would be ideal for all. In fact, I made a point that you agreed with — it is more targeted and focused on catering to the average wellness industry consumer (e.g. not catered to someone who has history with multiple gabaergics).
I feel like it’s worth noting, regarding the sleep misinterpretation:
I am never trying to induce sleep, with kava.
Instead, I am typically very stressed at nighttime after 13 hr shifts, working on the front lines of an understaffed state psychiatric institution, so I tend to be stressed at night, and I find kava helpful for this.
That’s why it helps me.
I.e. I don’t use kava to sleep, per se — I just get very stressed, after long work hours with patients who need a compassionate hand, a lot of good vibes, and a lot of attention to detail (with plenty of encouragement for their spirits). This can cause stress, since I’m one person with many patients. So accordingly, I aim to regulate that stress with kava. DrinkRoot, which I’ve mentioned, works just as well as (if not identically to) my 70%…
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
All the greater reason to test it, and go from there, correct…?
Absolutely. Till we test things we are just speculating. Perhaps your 70% is not spiked, but maybe doesn't have 70% kavalactones. Maybe they found a way to make a 70% powder that we don't know about, too. That's always possible as well. It's just that kavalactones are terpene compounds, so it would be super surprising to me if they found a way to make a concentration that high into a stable powder form. We'll see what we can find out in the lab.
I feel like it’s worth noting, regarding the sleep misinterpretation:
I am never trying to induce sleep, with kava.
Instead, I am typically very stressed at nighttime after 13 hr shifts, working on the front lines of an understaffed state psychiatric institution, so I tend to be stressed at night, and I find kava helpful for this.
Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification!
Also, it (in many ways verifiably) isn’t spiked with etizolam. I use it nightly even when I have to take drug test(s) for work. I also had a suspicion of such, naturally — but whenever using something especially effective, and something for which I can’t access or view a COA, not only do I take a drug test at work, but I take many different kinds at home, so accordingly I test for many different drug classes (with many different tests, mailing all out to multiple different institutions for actual quantification of results), while using plenty of it, all before I eventually test at work while using such effective substance (state hospital job, can’t risk losing it). So it is not spiked with etizolam, and I guarantee it isn’t spiked with any benzodiazepine or barbiturate, etc.
That's a good thing to do. At least you are testing for the presence of things. Again, the etizolam thing was more speculation than anything, based on the 70% kavalactone claim. It could be spiked with something entirely different that doesn't show up on drug tests, or we might be missing something with kava extraction techniques.
Can I just send it to you so you may accordingly test it, like you offered, so I can see it is free of heavy metals (etc), and you can find out the makeup of it, (thus) mutually finding answers with regard to both our interests, respectively (as well as not having to guess, based on my comment’s wording) … without added pressure of the spotlight on my thoughts within one comment (simple reflective thoughts, that I copied and pasted from my journal — not a review) … ? :/
Yes, absolutely. Sending us the samples and seeing what the lab results say is going to be the only way to get solid objective information on them. Did you already PM me? Forgive me if I missed it.
Of course, I only mean well. I was only offering my thoughts, which you asked of me to lend. I didn’t mean to make it sound as if it were an objective review. As such, I copied and pasted just that — my thoughts — by copying and pasting what I put in my daylio journal entry.
Again, don't stress about any of it. I asked you for your opinion. You gave it. /u/Pretty-Chill and I just had a conversation surrounding it, and we relayed our thoughts. No need for any stress. We've known each other long enough for me to know you mean well. You also just know that I like to get to the bottom of things as much as I can. If someone is responding poorly to something, I want to make sure I completely understand why. If ultimately that results in us finding that a competing product works better for some people, that just means we have more work to do on the product side of things. Never take anything in any of my responses to be an attack. It is never meant that way. Both myself and everyone on my team truly are trying to find the answers to things. It's about learning and advancing the science behind some of these compounds more than anything else.