Comment · Thu, September 23, 2021 · ND Owner
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srubek · 13 points
Kind of wanted to replace my 70% kavalactone content extract with this, but I must now try it, in order of gauging if that 70% was a true 70%, to see which is greater potent. I’m pumped for this, still.
I’m also curious if this is a (literal) “just add water” product, like “Drink Root” sells, or if this is micronized kava, or if it is a pure extract (and whether it is water-soluble…when it comes to what it precisely is (and what general type of product it is related to, with respect to kava products currently on the market).
/u/misteryouaresodumb, care to chime in?
also, everyone ensure no alcohol is consumed at the same time kava is consumed, given the severe interaction of kava suppressing alcohol’s metabolic pathway / catalyst / means of metabolism — this is one of a small handful of misconceptions within the “kava liver issues” discussions. It’s not the kava by itself, at all, that is toxic — but it’s where it comes from, what part of the plant it is, how it is prepared, and what it is consumed alongside (never alcoholic beverages, please), that could result in liver toxicity.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I want to hear your opinion on it. We tested many kava extracts of the past 2 years. A couple of them were 70% kavalactone ones. We found them to kind of suck in comparison. There is something interesting happening with the traditional water kneading process that I think many people are missing. There are natural starches in the kava root that we think are forming inclusion complexes with the kavalactones, kind of like encasing things in a cyclodextrin. These ethanol and supercritical CO2 extracts out there are getting higher kavalactone amounts, but they are losing this traditional process that seems to form these inclusion complexes. Sometimes the traditional methods are the way they are for a reason. They are a pain in the ass for most people, which limits some people from using kava. However, our partners in Fiji have found a way to use that traditional water extraction/kneading process, but keep it all intact in powder form so that we can make tablets from it. It's actually really cool, and we are going to be doing even more research on it as time goes on. This is a noble kava from a single farm in Fiji with the chemotype 463251 that is done in a way to keep these natural starch complexes in place from the traditional methods of making kava. It's not just micronized powder. It's a whole special process to make a powder that acts as similarly to a bowl of traditional kava as we can. I really do want to hear from people that use kava a lot, since I don't. I can go off of how I have reacted, and get the opinions of other people that are kava enthusiasts. However, I really want to see what a larger sample of people think of it!