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Comment · Fri, May 29, 2020

L-Theanine Tablet and Fasting

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MongolianNapoleon · 8 points

Hi,

I've been doing some I.F. recently and only having a cup of black coffee during the mornings (I fast during the daytime - only eat at dinner). Currently, I take my theanine tablet at night, but I was wondering if I could take it with my coffee instead, to get that famous synergy!

I'm fasting for longevity, not for weight, so I was wondering if taking the Theanine would break my fast. Does the tablet contain any fillers? I also know that it's an amino acid, so does that break a longevity fast?

Thank you!! ❤️

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varvelaf · 2 points

I came upon this trying to figure out if having a small fat bomb for breakfast (spoonful of coconut oil for example), would reduce autophagy/HGH. I’m getting a mixed message. You say:

Fat is fine, though. It does not lead to any of the signaling pathways that would affect insulin, glucagon, or mTOR activation. So a small amount of fat should not break a fast like protein or carbohydrates would.

But also:

However, fasting is trying to prevent insulin spikes so that it results in positive epigenetic changes. If you keep the calories under around 10, you should be fine. My rule of thumb is 5 calories or less. So I only take fish oil around dinner, as that is over 5.

So I’m wondering how this is reconciled basically. If fat doesn’t affect insulin, glucagon or mTOR, then how would eating say, 200 kcal of fat lower autophagy/HGH? Why not take the fish oil in the morning?

I’ve only been doing IF a few weeks but I’ve found that my mental energy and mood is much better when I take some fat in the morning, but I would want to adapt to going without that if it’s reducing the benefits of fasting. I just don’t understand how it does.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb

Truthfully, I don't know where the line is drawn with fat. I tend to err on the site of caution. So I keep that lower. However, you may be able to get away with more fat than I am limiting to.

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