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Comment · Mon, May 9, 2016 · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

Probiotics and fermented foods

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vapenationvn · 21 points

I read a lot about articles on probiotics and fermented foods (kefir, sauerkraut, kimchi, etc.) and wanted to try it for mood and cognition.

I would like to know if any of you tried probiotics or fermented foods and what were the effects?

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sleepycorn · 1 points

Wow, that's a huge amount of useful info. Thank you!

average of $2.6 Billion to get to market for the total development.

Maybe. I bet that includes marketing, despite their claim that it's R&D. It also includes opportunity cost of investment (an an extremely high percent), which is frankly absurd. Besides, Epicor has already done discovery and development. But I see your point: it would still take hundreds of millions to get to market as a drug, with no guarantee of approval.

I read the studies (at least, four of them so far) and they seem to support what you wrote, but I'm bumping into the wall of my immature understanding of immunology. I am encouraged that the study that didn't exclude people with allergies saw some reduction in seasonal allergy symptoms.

On the balance, it seems like it'll be worth giving it a try. Thanks again!

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

Maybe. I bet that includes marketing, despite their claim that it's R&D. It also includes opportunity cost of investment (an an extremely high percent), which is frankly absurd. Besides, Epicor has already done discovery and development. But I see your point: it would still take hundreds of millions to get to market as a drug, with no guarantee of approval.

Yeah, marketing is probably in there. However, even taking that out, hundreds of millions of dollar is a really high barrier of entry. Also, it makes it so that no compound that is not novel, or completely patentable, is never going to be put through FDA trials. Epicor's process is patented. However, I highly doubt the compounds in it are. So if they put it through trials, people would immediately jump in offering generics, destroying any profit that could have been made. The FDA has things very very stacked against new drugs right now.

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