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Comment · Thu, January 21, 2016 · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

Gaba-B agonists, dopamine feed back loop, NMDARs, BDNF... Help me connect the dots

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Yoyomamahh · 24 points

TLDR at bottom

-Background-

To make a long story short, I tried phenibut and it changed my life. It made my mind clear, my mood sharp, my emotional intelligence skyrocket, and just gave me a "happy to be alive" type feeling. Up to that point I didn't even know how amazing the gift of life really was. I thought my Aspergerger symptoms were just my vote personality. I didn't realize my emotional instability, sensory problems, social anxiety, brain fog, low energy levels, irritability, and a shit ton of other symptoms could be resolved.

During this time I was a freshman in college. Never been on a date, socially awkward as fuck, couldn't make eye contact, and would turn red as a pepper any time attention was brought to me. I had tried recreational drugs to try and help, none of which I really enjoyed. Phenibut changed all this for about 12 hours.

Unfortunately we all know about its tolerance and withdrawals. But shit I just knew that somehow, someway, this random Russian gem cured me and set my soul free. I could walk anywhere with my head up, joke around, freely express my opinion, flirt with girls, and face my fears.

The most convincing thing (and what made me believe this…

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Yoyomamahh · 1 points

I understand. The sleep depravation thing happened once, but I have experienced the same feeling without sleep deprivation numerous times. For over a year, at least once a week, usually twice, but notice these effects every time I do it. The weird thing is, if I take the 2 drugs together it does not have this effect. Only during an adderall comedown.

And I haven't tried nefiracetam, I might just order some tonivht. I have d-cycloserine now, would that have the same effect? If the feeling is sustainable, could low dose adderall early in the am+ Baclofen in the afternoon be a solution? I can't help but think that maybe I'm really messing up the dopamine in my brain, or is it actually a benefit with the Baclofen?

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

D-Cycloserine is actually partial agonist of the glycine site. So it activates the glycine site, but to a lower extent than glycine. It lowers activation compared to homeostasis, just not as much as a full antagonist would.

It is an interesting reaction; especially that is is reproducible. It could be an interaction we are not thinking about too. It's hard to say.

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