Comment · Fri, March 27, 2015 · Ceretropic
Status of Cetropic's N-Acetyl Semax Amidate?
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gogogadgt · 10 points
Just wondering if there are plans to stock this again? Also, any updates that users have? I'd love to buy it in the Spray form one of these days.
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theskepticalidealist · 2 points
Fascinating! Though a company like yours is not like something like Alpha Brain that markets to the masses and I understand gets the overlapping customers. You are more like a "gray-net" company with hardly any, to zero, "real" marketing whatsoever. I suppose the biggest draw people have to your company has been this sub. It is just pretty amazing to me that people who are okay with mainstream supplements or Alpha Brain type products will take research chemicals and unscheduled chemicals (but that are still just as potent as a prescription pharmacutical). I mean I get the RC community is huge, but they operate more on legal analogues of banned substances. I would suggest perhaps the RC community is also merging somewhat. If it wasn't for the effects of the substances or the intention (noot RCs aren't trying to be an analogue for cocaine or something) you might have real trouble telling the difference between some RC companies and noot companies
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
Yes, the current form of Ceretropic is more grey net. However, we are in the process of creating multiple different companies, under one parent organization, which will branch out into many other spaces. Some of those companies are going to be a lot more mainstream than nootropics. There is a lot of room for improvement in a number of industries. I think we can do some cool things in places outside the nootropic realm as well. I am certainly going to give it my best effort, and see what happens.
I think everything is starting to merge. As knowledge becomes easier to access, people start to realize that everything is chemistry. A molecule is a molecule. It's humans that start to try and separate, categorize, and draw arbitrary lines in the sand. Natural=good, synthetic=bad. That absolutionist nonsense is starting to be come more apparent to a lot of people. Is cooking that much different than chemistry? It's chemicals acting on certain receptors, and the quest to hit those receptors in an ideal manner. We're dealing with that right now with our flavorings. Now we are trying to neutralize specific flavors in solutions, using chemistry to block receptor binding in the tongue. It's just another form of pharmacology, but is never really considered that by the general public. It's just taste to everyone.
Exercising and working out are all dependent on chemistry. It's not just lifting heavy objects, or running from lions anymore. We have the collective knowledge that we have learned over centuries to help us improve that process. Even the distinction between therapeutic and recreational is starting to become blurred. Who dictates what basal levels of feelings people should have? If I determine that I do not feel as good as I want to, why should I not be free to choose to try and improve those feelings? Is a doctor really necessary to tell me whether or not I feel at an appropriate level? We accept that people have a beer after a long week, or take a smoke break. We accept that I am allowed to eat pizza if I am crazing it. Why do we not accept someone taking another substance to alter their perception for a certain time? Is it really that we feel people are too stupid to make decisions for themselves? People rise to the level they need to, for what is put in front of them. If you never allow them to rise to the occasion, they never will.
So that's a long-winded way of saying that I do not think the traditional distinctions we put on things are necessary in the modern world. Motivations might differ for some, and the risk level of the substances vary wildly. However, drawing arbitrary lines in the sand to try and separate things into groups, just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The RC market is certainly merging with the nootropics market, along with the supplement market. People are becoming more interested in the chemistry behind things, and I think that is fantastic. Or maybe I am just getting more interested in these things, and am hoping others will too. Either way, I'm happy about it.