Comment · Sun, March 15, 2015 · Ceretropic
Jarrow Formulas Rhodiola Rosea - Effects?
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bannerbruce · 6 points
I am experiencing very mixed effects with this herb, most times it's a slight mood improvement or reduced fatigue but then again I was taking St. John's Worts at the same time. Really what I am looking for is a natural herbal supplement that will reduce fatigue but in more in-your-face sort of way, in that the effects are very noticeable. Edit: I've placed in an order for Super Rhodiola sometime this mid-week, so I am looking forward to seeing how that compares to Jarrow's version.
I also hardly experience anything when I take Sulbutiamine: I've tried 200mg to 1000mg (500mg b.i.d.). Did the researchers scan the brains of the subjects after they were given Sulbutiamine?
I'm also taking 6 x fish oil which has 330mg EPA & 220mg DHA per softgel. So ~3g of EPA and DHA. I take all 6 in the morning or sometimes, 3 in the morning and 3 in the evening. Is this a bit too much? I've not noticed any negative effects, actually I feel like my vision has improved somewhat.
Jarrow Formulas® Rhodiola extract is standardized to contain a minimum of 5% rosavins, the highest potency available.
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Nickswim · 1 points
There are a lot of other active compounds in Rhodiola Rosea that produce the effects on the stress response system besides Tyrosol and Salidrosides (not all "stimulating"). An adaptogen has multiple functions, Rhodiola Rosea can stimulate, but it isn't the only effect. The 3:1 ratio being what is naturally found, and what has been naturally consumed for thousands of years, is probably the safest, most balanced way to consume the herb and achieve desired benefits, with minimal side effects. I'm sure you can spike and concentrate any ingredient to your hearts desire, however there are other properties of Rhodiola Rosea that function to increase cellular level activity (increasing ATP function) for example, and other properties to reduce oxidation that also contribute to improving and enhancing the stress response system.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
But we are talking about extracts here, not dried whole plant. So the ratios of nature are not going to translate on a 1:1 basis. That is my point. If you are measuring a whole plant sample, and telling me the % Rosavin, then we can somewhat extrapolate the ratios based on nature. With an extract, that is not the case. Is it an ethanol extract, water extract, or combination? What temperatures and times were used? If we just measured for the active ingredients as well, then we would have that useful info.
Most people are using Rhodiola for the stimulant/antidepressant properties. The antioxidant properties are good too, but Salidroside and Tyrosol are both great antioxidants as well, and increase ATP function. So why not test for the % of those, and use that as your advertisement? Hell, give all 3 percentages! But using Rosavin as the main standard, without mentioning the others, still seems silly to me.