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Comment · Sat, December 6, 2014 · Ceretropic

Tianeptine: Something needs to be done

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Almost daily there is a new thread or comment regarding abuse of Tianeptine. Just yesterday evening there was a post asking how often one can mega-dose tinaeptine safely. One reply is from a gentleman who advocated the safety of IV injecting 100mg+ on a regular basis, as he's done so "safely" for the last two months. IMHO mega-dosing Tianeptine is tantamount to drug abuse; and at these doses has serious implications for addiction and harm. Additionally, many of us find great relief from ailments such as depression, anxiety, and for me PTSD when other treatments have failed. The continued abuse and advocation of by a small minority will undoubtedly lead to a stricter regulation of this otherwise incredible compound, leaving many of us who use it responsibly at therapeutic doses choosing to return to a life without or risk the legal and health implications of buying Tianeptine on the underground market.

I am coming forward to ask the moderators of /r/nootropics to officially ban any submissions that advocate the so-called "safety" of mega-dosing Tianeptine for the long term, and perhaps begin labeling all Tianeptine posts as "DANGEROUS" as we do other potentially habit forming…

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relbatnrut · 4 points

I agree. Whatever the affinity it has to μ-opioid receptors, this clearly has abuse potential, and this should be acknowledged by vendors and moderators (looking at you a bit, /u/MisterYouAreSoDumb; I know you've used this argument before).

Edit: as to what should be done, I think it's a no-brainer to just tag tianeptine posts with "high risk."

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

The high risk tag is meant to warn people about untested compounds without a history of safety in humans. That does not apply to tianeptine. It has safely been used by humans for decades. It's only recently that morons have gotten access to bulk pricing on it, and have decided to try and ruin it for everyone.

I almost want to stop offering it as powder, since people cannot be responsible adults, and use things therapeutically. It's a fucking shame, because there were people on the brink of suicide, and are now able to control their depression because of this substance. The only way this is going to stop is if the individuals abusing this drug stop doing it. There is literally nothing we can do. We can tag posts about it, but that is not going to change the fact that idiots want to get high, and are using a useful antidepressant to do it. The more we talk about it, the more people are going to try and abuse it. That was my fear when TLR started making posts about abuse potential. The more talk about opioid affinities, the more people will try an use it for that.

So we can certainly tag posts about it. I think that will just make the problem worse, though. People looking to abuse a drug do not give a shit about warning tags. The more we talk about this, the more people see, leading to more people abusing it. So dumb.

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