Comment · Fri, September 19, 2014 · Ceretropic
24 hour hospitalization after taking Ceretropic's Hidrafinil--elevated Troponin levels
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oopsieeeee · 5 points
Two days ago I took 100milligrams of Hydrafinil around 11am. This was the fourth time I took it, the other times didn't seem to cause man problems other than tiredness. By 10pm I started feeling quite fatigued and weak, with headache and muscle ache--general malaise. By midnight, after going to bed, I started having hot and cold flashes and elevated heart beat (around 100beatsmin) which was accompanied by angina. I slept for twelve hours off and on and my heart rate never went back down so I went to the ER. Blood tests showed elevated Troponin at 0.9 and I was committed for observation during the night with a beta-blocker. Heart rate didn't return to normal sup 80s level until about 7am today--so 42 hours after dosage. My Troponin went down to around 0.4, but any detectable positive quantity indicates possible heart damage. My Echo looked good so nothing major happened it seemed.
I also took along with the Hydrafinil: around 300-400mg of caffeine, 400mg theanine, 15mg Vinpocetine, doses of bacopa, Rhodiola, and Ashwagandha. I also had about 3 servings of alcohol starting at 8pm the day of consumption before symptoms got really bad. I also worked out (weightlifting around 3pm the…
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simen · 4 points
How does one go about proving a claim like this, exactly? Unless you're redditing from the hospital with nurses, doctors, medications etc right there for you to prove your claims, how are you going to verify it? I agree that false claims are serious. I don't have a stake in the nootropics market as a seller, but as an occasional buyer, I don't want to see even further restrictions placed upon nootropics by legislators (I already live in a country that bans most nootropics) based on false claims about their adverse health effects.
I just can't quite figure out how you'd go about verifying such a claim, especially after the fact. On the other hand, if there is a batch of something going around that's seriously dangerous, perhaps the potential damage to a company's reputation or the rep of nootropics as a whole are outweighed by the imminent danger to people's health.
At the very least you could slap a big red "UNVERIFIED" on posts like this, and then we can pick them apart in the comments if need be.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
I think we need the community's help to work out the specifics.
I really feel like shit after stickying the fraudulent nootropics.co.uk post. The person used our fear of purity issues, to try an smear the name of their competitor, and I let them do it. I have spoken to the owners of nootropics.co.uk a few times now, and they appreciate us finally taking the post down. Luckily it did not cause them too much financial damage. But that kind of deception is not acceptable. We need to be able to protect vendors from that. It's irrelevant to me, because I have agreed to exclude myself from that rule. But this issue is going to pop up again.