Comment · Thu, September 18, 2014 · Ceretropic
24 hour hospitalization after taking Ceretropic's Hidrafinil--elevated Troponin levels
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oopsieeeee · 5 points
Two days ago I took 100milligrams of Hydrafinil around 11am. This was the fourth time I took it, the other times didn't seem to cause man problems other than tiredness. By 10pm I started feeling quite fatigued and weak, with headache and muscle ache--general malaise. By midnight, after going to bed, I started having hot and cold flashes and elevated heart beat (around 100beatsmin) which was accompanied by angina. I slept for twelve hours off and on and my heart rate never went back down so I went to the ER. Blood tests showed elevated Troponin at 0.9 and I was committed for observation during the night with a beta-blocker. Heart rate didn't return to normal sup 80s level until about 7am today--so 42 hours after dosage. My Troponin went down to around 0.4, but any detectable positive quantity indicates possible heart damage. My Echo looked good so nothing major happened it seemed.
I also took along with the Hydrafinil: around 300-400mg of caffeine, 400mg theanine, 15mg Vinpocetine, doses of bacopa, Rhodiola, and Ashwagandha. I also had about 3 servings of alcohol starting at 8pm the day of consumption before symptoms got really bad. I also worked out (weightlifting around 3pm the…
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plurality · 5 points
How would you like him to provide evidence?
He probably doesn't have the hospital lab results, as those are usually forwarded to your GP and specialist for a followup. The hospital doesn't give it to you unless you explicitly ask for it.
He can't prove that it was the hydrafinil that caused it. If anything, he could post his order information, but that would put him at risk of his identity being exposed.
Outside of the prescription, his cardiologist probably gave his verbal instructions and then scribbled them down onto a regular piece of paper. If he is lying, that is something he can forge himself.
He can provide pictures of the metoprolol and pantoprazole. But those pictures can be scooped from anywhere on the web, so they really don't prove anything.
What I'm trying to get at is there's not really any foolproof way of proving this occurred, or, if it did, that it was caused by the hydrafinil.
I'm not saying that we should or shouldn't believe him. I'm just saying that people won't be happy with whatever the evidence is, and may use it to immediately discredit the entire post.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
Well the nootropics.co.uk hospital post has now been proven to be a fraud. However, we operated on the assumption that it was real, and stickied the post to the subreddit. In all actuality, we were being taken advantage of by one of their competitors, to try and devalue their company before it was sold. By the time I figured it all out, the damage had been done, and their name was dragged through the mud. I felt extremely shitty for that, and wanted to instigate procedures for ascertaining proof of hospital posts in the future. We never settled on the specifics, and now we are here.
I approved this post, because the other mods and I discussed that I would have to exclude myself from those rules, to eliminate any claims of bias. I will say that nobody has contacted us about this possible incident, and all we have to go on is a brand new throwaway account making claims. If it is true, combining all those substances with alcohol was stupid. But this is all a little too convenient timing for my tastes. Ohh well.