Comment · Sat, February 8, 2014 · Ceretropic
Depressive effects from phenylpiracetam
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Notlambda · 2 points
I've taken phenylpiracetam with citi-choline a few times, and the effects were amazing. Verbal fluency went way through the roof, and I was able to understand concepts easily. I was called a genius multiple times while using it, and helped my co-workers through some hard coding problems with ease. Definitely not placebo. Definitely a different ball game than modafinil. I wish I could always use it, but I've heard that tolerance develops very quickly.
So far I've always taken it first thing in the morning around 8:00 AM. The effects kick in after about 30 minutes, and they last virtually all day, until around 6:00 PM, when I crash HARD.
Around 6:00 PM I find my cognitive abilities have returned to average levels, but I become ridiculously sad to the point of suicidal attempts. I cut myself with a knife while on the stuff, and went out to the street trying to throw myself into heavy traffic.
I'm not usually like that at all.
After the first day I searched the Internet for phenylpiracetam side-effects, but nobody had listed depression as a problem. I stopped the phenylpiracetam and went straight citi-choline, and the depression went away, so it wasn't the choline causing the…
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simen · 3 points
I think it's great that you're always preaching harm reduction, and dropping knowledge bombs all day. But this doesn't sound like he "triggered latent depression" at all. He took a drug, experienced uncommon adverse side effects. Stopped taking the drug, the side effects went away. Solution? Stop taking the drug and move on with your life.
If he's really concerned, of course he could talk to a doctor, but really, what is a doctor going to do about it? Probably tell you not to take the drug, and then... What else is there to say? There is nothing in the scientific literature that really gives any indication that this should happen, or how, or why, or how to treat it except by avoiding the drug.
That is assuming I read the post right and OP is not currently a manic genius/self-harming depressive, but rather a healthy mind off the drug.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
No, he needs to see someone. You do not cut yourself with knives and try to throw yourself in front of moving traffic because you just got some depressive feelings from a drug. Feeling depressed is common, and is not that big of a deal in many cases. Acting on those depressed feelings by causing or trying to cause self harm is much much more serious! Hell, even just thinking about self harm puts this into a different category. However, OP actually acted on those feelings. He needs to speak to a qualified professional ASAP!
If he just came to us and said that phenylpiracetam made him depressed, and he sat at home feeling sad, then I would agree with you. Stop the phenyl and be careful about its use in the future. However, attempted suicide is not something that we should brush off!