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Comment · Wed, April 3, 2013 · Ceretropic

Got an impressive shipment of various racetams yesterday and today is day II of experimenting with all of them. Took quite a variety today, then about two hours ago I gook pramiracetam. I just woke up in my bed. I don't remember going to sleep. Anyone experience anything similar?

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_julain · 0 points

I took quite a bit of racetams today for my second day experimenting (previous experience only with phenylpiracetam). I started with 11mg Sunifiram early in the AM, about three hours later 800mg Oxiracetam, several hours later 515mg Nefiracetam, then several hours later 30mg Noopept, then finally 333mg Pramiracetam. Then I guess I got unbelievably tired (I remember feeling tired) then passed out for an hour and a half. I don't remember getting into bed. Was I just fatigued from other things, or could my copious consumption of nootropics have played a role in this? I feel great now, so I'm not too worried. It was still a bit surprising waking up.

I did only get seven hours of sleep last night, and I'm used to 8-9 hours. I also started lifting weights again yesterday, and I started taking creatine yesterday. Maybe I was genuinely fatigued and nootropics played no role in this.

Again, I'm not particularly worried, all vitals seem normal and have been all day. I have been known to have a "nap attack" now and then, so it could have just been an intense one of those.

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_julain · 0 points

This is what I was looking for! Fantastic. I wonder what causes it. Also, I decided to go large day 1 and day 2 to see what racetams were really capable of. If something has incredibly negative effects in a large dose, I don't want to slip it into a stack and cause subtle negative effects at a low dose without noticing. Same goes for positive effects. Plus I just wanted to see what would happen.

I'm really curious if this is more evidence of racetams and their derivatives burning through more ATP in the brain. It would make sense, since Vitamin Bx would generate more ATP in the brain. It could also help explain some other sleep-related things!

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

It's possible that ATP plays a part in it. An easy test for that would be to take creatine with your stack and see if the tired feeling goes away.

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