Comment · Wed, June 17, 2026 · ND Owner

My experience with 4’-DMA-7,8-DHF

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adviceaccount003 · 12 points

The first time I took this I experienced horrible insomnia.

However I tried it again just this past week (after many months) and I have to say I did feel a very noticeable lift in mood and energy.

I also did not experience the insomnia I went through the first time.

I would consider this one of the stronger nootropics on ND.

3/10 on first use (because of insomnia)

7/10 on my past couple of times taking it because of improved mood and energy.

I have been somewhat depressed the past couple weeks and this did help.

I did also have coffee the past couple of times I took it and didn’t seem like an issue, but if you are a sensitive responder maybe try without caffeine or other Noots on your first dose.

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VicemanPro · 1 points

I love it, I just hate how fast a tolerance develops for me.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Polygala in the evenings seems to help with that.

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