Comment · Sat, December 23, 2023 · ND Owner
Why am I an aggressive dude when I take Tongkat Ali?
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phymathnerd · 5 points
I have been taking tongkat ali on and off for quite some time now. Every time I take it, I notice that after two days, I’m more aggressive and want to fight everyone. I am a friendly guy who doesn’t really get irritated with people easily, but boy do I get irritated with everything when taking this supplement. Road rage is insane and I feel a lot more masculine. I know testosterone is what increases my aggressiveness, but I am confused at how this happens only two days after I take this supplement. Is this normal?
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u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
When you increase testosterone in the subcortical areas of the brain, while not increasing cortisol and serotonin, you can get aggressive. Tongkat ali both increases testosterone and lowers cortisol. Since you are naturally a calm person, that likely means you have low cortisol as it is. Tongkat is lowering it even more, and you are not taking anything to increase serotonin, so you get aggressive. It's a very common effect with Tongkat. Tongkat can also lower estrogen, by inhibiting aromatase. What does estrogen control? Serotonin synthesis! It's all about balance between the three. Tongkat is a great supplement, but rarely would I suggest people only take it. It really shines in stacks, where you get the balance right. Horny goat weed and Panax ginseng are good to mix with it, to hit the estrogen side of things. I actually also find saffron is good for the serotonin side. Then I would suggest taking Infini-B with it. The pantothenic acid will help on the cortisol side of things. Then boron is a good idea, because it will help keep estrogen levels steady.
We are actually in the process of finalizing our optimized Tongkat product. That will be an all-in-one stack to help make Tongkat work most effectively. We are also going to be releasing an optimized Cistanche soon as well. Those two products are going to be very very good together.