Comment · Sun, January 1, 2023 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
KSM-66 and Sensoril Ashwagandha brands are extremely dishonest.
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hootenanny03 · 200 points
I work at a supplement testing laboratory where my specialty is HPLC. Every single product that has come through the door with Ashwagandha on the label from these 2 brands is insanely low in withanolide content. Orders of magnitude low. I just got Sensorils HPLC method and I'm seeing how they quantify their product and they are lying liars, like how NBC Dateline with Chris Hansen did with that dry labbing lab in 2012. They aren't quantifying anything, literally making up numbers. Yeah that's right, I'm accusing Sensoril of lying about what is in their product and I have proof, not just in their garbage method but in the dozens of clients samples I've tested that contain literal fairy dust amounts of actives. These products contain no plant DNA either so there's no way you can positively identify that Ashwagandha is in a product.
What's more, I know that there is at least one independent laboratory that is advertising their ability to test Ashwagandha and I have proof that they are literally making up numbers, I sent them a sample with a fake spec and they hit the fake spec right on the money. I have been a chemist for 18 years now and I am extremely reserved about accusing other…
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verifitting · 2 points
We removed the standardization claims, and just created an HP-TLC fingerprint of what KSM-66 and Sensoril should look like. Then we validate each batch to ensure it matches that fingerprint, along with heavy metals and micro testing. Since we don't own the patent, we just verify that each batch is consistent with what KSM-66 and Sensoril should be, per the patent holder. They also are matched against a validated botanical reference material for ashwagandha.
Seems more than honest to do this for every batch. Not much more you can do since it's patented, no?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
No, not much we can do. KSM-66 and Sensoril are what they are. We have no control over that. We just verify that they are consistent with what they have always been. We can do our own unique analysis on them, but even if we discover the exact compounds giving them their effects, the patent holders will still control what we can say about them with the TMLA.