Comment · Fri, December 30, 2022 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
KSM-66 and Sensoril Ashwagandha brands are extremely dishonest.
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hootenanny03 · 200 points
I work at a supplement testing laboratory where my specialty is HPLC. Every single product that has come through the door with Ashwagandha on the label from these 2 brands is insanely low in withanolide content. Orders of magnitude low. I just got Sensorils HPLC method and I'm seeing how they quantify their product and they are lying liars, like how NBC Dateline with Chris Hansen did with that dry labbing lab in 2012. They aren't quantifying anything, literally making up numbers. Yeah that's right, I'm accusing Sensoril of lying about what is in their product and I have proof, not just in their garbage method but in the dozens of clients samples I've tested that contain literal fairy dust amounts of actives. These products contain no plant DNA either so there's no way you can positively identify that Ashwagandha is in a product.
What's more, I know that there is at least one independent laboratory that is advertising their ability to test Ashwagandha and I have proof that they are literally making up numbers, I sent them a sample with a fake spec and they hit the fake spec right on the money. I have been a chemist for 18 years now and I am extremely reserved about accusing other…
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EscapeVelocity83 · 4 points
Sensorial says patented to specific 3 compounds
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
It is patented to them. These are patented products that we are under TMLAs (trademark licensing agreements) for. Ixoreal and Natreon do regulate what we can say about them. However, we felt it was prudent to remove the withanolide claim years ago, due to them being unwilling to reveal some of the protected stuff behind that patent to us, which would have allowed us to replicate their data. So now we sell them, because people do like them. However, we make no claims to withanolide content.
Also, DNA testing is not useful for extracts. That data would be meaningless. This is why we use HP-TLC, which does a good job of identifying species, plant part, extraction method, etc.