Comment · Fri, August 19, 2022 · ND Owner
Tongkat Ali grounded powder dosage
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FullTimeBaker · 1 points
Hey! I just ordered 100 gram of Tong kat ali powder which is not extracted, just minced from the root. It was very cheap so I thought why not try.
Any recommendations on dosage here? Im just guessing somewhere between 2-3 gram a day maybe? Anyone knows?
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-medicalthrowaway- · 1 points
I'm sorry that you took offense to my comment. I have not once suggested that you are welcoming or progressing the fanboy/cult mentality. In fact I picture that when these kids say these cringy things like "you're a god" that you... cringe. But if you really believe that there aren't a huge amount of real deal fanboy's bordering on cult-like followers... man I dunno
It's fine though
It's when they instantly respond with "that's not what ND says" and mindlessly repeat (as you appropriately said) things that they have no idea about. It's a lot of pressure on you to make sure your recommendations are solid, because people hold you in such high esteem. But there are 100 percent mindless fanboy's and I've given up on trying to help them "track down sources" because "that's not what ND says"
It's not someone who speaks up on similar issues as you, it's people who take your word as gospel and anyone who challenges it is going against the word of god... cringe
They forget you're human and while you're miles ahead in your passion for this thing... you guys aren't always right
I'll continue to point it out, and I think if you were me you would to. It's not to be right. It's to lay out truths so people can make informed decisions
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I didn't take offense to your isolated comment. It's just the pattern of the same thing being said for ten years. I also see the actual demographics of our customers, and it skews older than you might think. Young kids don't have money to buy supplements. Most of our customers are 25-40 years old. I think people get this idea in their heads that everyone on here is a young kid, but that's not the case. It's easy to infantilize people online we disagree with, and dismiss them as inexperienced kids. However, adults are plenty capable of being stupid, too.
As I have always said, I never try to say that I am always right. In fact, being wrong on a subject helps to push knowledge and understanding forward because it forces you to address it, but only if someone brings it up. If I am wrong I want to know about it, and be provided scientific research showing that, so that I can correct myself and better understand things. If someone thinks I am wrong on something, but they don't speak up with evidence to the contrary, it doesn't help anyone. It just keeps the incorrect information propagating. I actually just had a situation that I had to correct where I was wrong. Years ago I said that is N-acetylcysteine smelled of sulfur, that meant it was oxidized. This is what I assumed based on my understanding of the chemistry. My lab director also assumed that was the case. However, we decided that assuming wasn't good enough, and did a bunch of testing to prove it one way or another. It turns out that we were wrong. NAC doesn't oxidize just sitting there as a powder. We actually put it into high temperature and high humidity environments for many months to see if we could get it to oxidize more, and we found it did not. It didn't matter what environment we put it in. It was not oxidizing. Now what we think is happening is that the smell is H2S gas that was trapped in the crystal structure during crystallization in the synthesis. You can actually use a mortar and pestle to crush the crystal particles up and the smell will dissipate. Well I made a comment on Reddit years ago saying the smell was correlated with the powder oxidizing, and a customer wrote our customer support linking that comment. I had to explain to the customer that we were wrong in our assumptions back then, and further lab testing showed the situation was different. When you have made as many comments on Reddit over the years as I have, you are going to have many that later turn out to be wrong or missing a piece of the puzzle. I would hope that if I state something that seems to be incorrect, someone would alert me to it and provide evidence showing how and why I was wrong. We are all working towards the same goal: to advance our understanding of the human body and how to enhance it.
So I get that it can be frustrating when people question you and ask for sources. However, that's the only way we can advance. If you are laying out truths as you say, then citing research for your stance shouldn't be an issue. If these truly are kids mindlessly repeating what they hear, the only way they can change their stance is by being given contrary evidence. Saying you are right, then refusing to give any citations or evidence for your stance, doesn't productively move the discourse forward for anyone. It just creates animosity and breeds resentment.