Comment · Thu, August 18, 2022 · ND Owner
Tongkat Ali grounded powder dosage
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FullTimeBaker · 1 points
Hey! I just ordered 100 gram of Tong kat ali powder which is not extracted, just minced from the root. It was very cheap so I thought why not try.
Any recommendations on dosage here? Im just guessing somewhere between 2-3 gram a day maybe? Anyone knows?
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-medicalthrowaway- · 1 points
I get it, man. To be transparent with you because you certainly are with me, I've ordered and trialed 10-15 of your products and do you know how many are in my "stack"? None, because I was either a non or negative responder. But what's good is that I now know how I react to these supplements (negatively) because I know I got exactly what was on the label. You're doing a good thing with your company, and the supplement game as a whole. I'm just not someone who sees it as anything more than that, and it allows me to look objectively at this all
I'm not going to help you move, but I will recommend your products to anyone serious about nootropics/supplements.
What's different is that the trash that is the general supplement industry hits right where it hurts for you (and it should) and that's why you prioritize quality control and standardization. I'm just a guy optimizing his health, so when your followers get mad that I'm blatent in my comments, it doesn't bother me
But I do appreciate what you do, whether I'm in the cult or not.
I did think the post was ridiculous too, but I've been here too long to babysit people's bad decisions
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
That's all I want anyone to see it as: getting exactly what is claimed on the label so that you can accurately assess if it is something you react positively to. It should be the bare minimum in this industry, but it unfortunately is a rarity. I know many people won't react positively to everything, or anything in some cases. My lab director is just like you. He doesn't react to most things, and many of the ones he does react to are negative, so I totally get your position. I don't want people to keep buying things if they are not getting positive effects from them, nor do I want people to think there is one right answer for everyone. Everyone is different, and sometimes the best answer for that person is to just not take a specific supplement at all.
The thing that gets me is that we seem to be held to this insane standard that nobody else is. Anyone supporting us is just a fanboy or shill. My main message since before I even started this company in 2013 was that people should care that the things they are putting into their bodies are what they claim to be. It's the responsibility of the companies selling these things to properly lab test everything and have proper quality control for the health of their customers. I've yelled and screamed for years to anyone that would listed about just how bad things are in this industry, and why people should care about it as much as I do. I have been fortunate enough to affect a lot of good change in that department, and to get a lot of people to care about these things as well. Then anyone that speaks up and relays that same message suddenly gets called a fanboy, like they are a mindless horde with no personal agency. It's as if they can't hear my message and come to the same conclusion themselves. They get called shills and cult members. Everyone complained of bias and collusion on /r/Nootropics, even though there was no evidence of that, so I created /r/NootropicsDepot to build a separate community apart from all that. I separated us from the equation altogether and built our own thing here, so that people would stop saying I was using /r/Nootropics as a marketing tool. Then people come here to our subreddit and ask for advice on how to take some other company's product, and anyone responding saying we can't give you advice, and that you probably shouldn't take it, are labeled as mindless fanboys that are part of some Nootropics Depot cult. It seems like some impossible standard we are held to. If you went on /r/StrangerThings and said that the show sucked, and asked for which episodes of Better Call Saul are the best, would the people coming to the defense of Stranger Things be dismissed as fanboys? Well they subscribe to /r/StrangerThings! They are certainly fans, and responding critically to someone coming in regarding another show shouldn't be surprising. People who subscribe to /r/NootropicsDepot are clearly fans of what we are doing, and clearly resonate with our mission. Them relaying the same concerns that I have brought up over the last decade shouldn't be surprising.
I am also not a cult leader. I don't have followers. I don't tell people to believe or do anything. I express my frustration and stances and make my position known. If other people see that and agree, great. However, it is always positioned like I am Jared Leto on a private island wearing a white robe with a bunch of my cult followers doing everything I tell them. Everyone here is their own person with their own agency. They can make their own decisions for what they believe in. If they relay some of the same things I do, it's because they came to that conclusion based on the information they were given. I don't know, I am just frustrated that this is literally ten years of the same shit said about us. I completely leave /r/Nootropics because of it, and no matter what it follows me. I am leading some nootropics/supplement cult that mindlessly repeats my message and does my bidding, I guess. Nobody has unique thoughts of their own. They are all just robots repeating what I say without a second thought. I've seen multiple comments just this week on posts on /r/NootropicsDepot calling everyone here fanyboys, cult members, knuckleheads, and shills. It really gets old after a while.