Nootropics depot vs liftmode

OHH MY GOD PEOPLE. I tried to stay out of this thread, because this stupid powdery/granular phenibut shit has been going on literally since I started the company in 2013. Ask /u/liftmode about it. They will say the same damn thing. One thread says LiftMode's stuff sucks, and ours works better. Then the next week a thread says ND's sucks, and LiftMode's is better. It's back and forth bullshit constantly for almost a decade. I stay out of it because I know LiftMode's is the exact fucking same thing as ours is!!! I test them in the lab. I have retained samples going back to 2014. We have literally tested it to fucking DEATH. IT'S THE SAME FUCKING THING!!!! There is nothing different chemically between ours and LiftMode's. Absolutely nothing. It's the exact same chemical. The only difference is the milling size. It's literally the difference between granular sugar and powdered sugar. You can take the larger particle sized phenibut and grind it into a powdery consistency. Did that chemically change the phenibut? Absolutely not! It's the same chemical! It's just ground down to a finer particle. None of that matters, though. Phenibut HCL is very water soluble. This means that it will immediately go into solution in the GI tract. Particle size makes NO DIFFERENCE to the pharmacokinetics of the molecule. We test this fucking shit in the lab. We have a lab that I have spent over $5 million on, with extremely accurate equipment, and some of the smartest scientists I have ever worked with running them. We have ran hundreds of tests on phenibut. Literally hundreds. Do you not think we have verified this shit to death?!? That's the entire reason I built this company! Yet every week there is some abuse post on here saying our shit isn't as "euphoric" as LiftMode's, whatever the fuck that means. How is everyone measuring their euphoria? Do we have a validated lab test to check that? Do you use an ion euphoriometer? Perhaps using Fourier transform infrared euphorioscopy? Is it measured in EUP? "Ohh, this batch is only a 6 EUP, but that batch is a 10 EUP." Then the next week someone else says ours is way more euphoric than Liftmode's. Did the fucking phenibut change? NO!!!! It's the same. I am sure the Liftmode people are reading this shit and shaking theirs heads like I am, just like I shake my head at the stupid posts saying our phenibut worked better than theirs did. It's all the fucking same!!! I can scream and shout that all I want, but nothing will ever change here. Nobody gives a shit about validated analytical methods. Everyone wants to just listen to what random Redditor's think is more "euphoric" as they hand measure way more than they should be taking with a scoop, and shove it into their mouths. I want to bang my fucking head against a wall reading anything on this fucking sub! I am right now, in fact! Visualize me in my office banging my head against the wall.

We absolutely NEVER go with different suppliers because they are cheaper or to save a buck. It's asinine to even claim that. I have spent more money trying to advance the analytical and quality control standards of this industry than anyone else in the world. I can say that without a bit of hesitation. Nobody has spent the money I have to push quality control and lab standards forward in the nootropics industry. Hell, just ask my lab director! I could have bought a fleet of Ferraris and Lambos, but I built a fucking world class analytical lab, and staffed it with extremely qualified people. I could be off living on my own island drinking beer on the beach with fucking spider monkeys, having zero stress, but I am still here trying to accomplish the mission I set out to years ago. That mission is to make sure consumers can trust the shit they are putting into their bodies. I am one of the only people fighting hard for you guys in the industry! Seriously, I don't think many of you understand that. The vast majority of companies out there selling you shit don't give a flying fuck about you, or what it takes to make sure things are tested and pure. They just don't. The very few that do don't think you should have the agency to decide what you put into your bodies. If you take away me and a few other people in this industry that care about quality, validated science, and personal choice, it will devolve back into the shit it was in 2008-2012, with random Chinese powders being packaged in living rooms again. That won't stop the stupid "X brand is more euphoric" posts from happening, though... because phenibut is a fucking fickle compound. Dietary pH makes a big difference, and nobody here is controlling for things in that manner. Send any batch of our phenibut to a lab... any batch. It doesn't matter. Just try to empirically find anything wrong with our phenibut. Hell, just try to find anything even remotely chemically different between the batches. They will never find anything, because we ensure it is perfect every time using scientifically validated lab methods. If there was any way for me to verify any of these claims empirically, I would. I have tried! I have done test after test to see if we could find any difference. I have done blinded testing with customers claiming one batch worked and another didn't. However, not once could anyone accurately pick out the batches once they were blinded. Not once have we been able to use any scientific methodology that shows a difference. NOT ONCE! Unless there is some magical factor that science can't detect, variability in effects is from outside factors.

Our current phenibut isn't even fluffy! It's granular/crystalline like usual. We got ONE BATCH of a finer more powdery consistency, because the supply chain for phenibut completely broke down recently. So we tried to get as much of it as we could, and yes one of the batches was more fluffy than usual. It was the exact same chemically, though. Nothing was different, other than how fine the powder was milled. We actually paid MORE for that batch!!! That's why this is so hilarious. We paid more than usual just to get as much as we could in so that we would not run out of stock. However, now I have people saying we are cheaping out to save a buck... If you guys only knew how much fucking money we spend making sure every single unit of every single product is perfect every time. I fight this fight every single day. We would make soooooo much more money if I didn't, and just YOLOswaged it like most other vendors. Regardless, that fluffy batch all sold through now. It's back to the normal particle size on the shelf. Want to know the stupid fucking thing? We have people via email RIGHT NOW saying they preferred the fluffy stuff... So you got Jabronis on here saying the fluffy stuff sucked, and they want the granular back. However, they don't realize that's what we are currently selling. Then you have other Jabronis on email saying they want to go back to the fluffy stuff. Then you have me in the middle literally hitting myself in the face with blunt objects just to dull the mental pain from the entire phenibut ordeal the last 7 years.

So no, there is absolutely no scientifically valid evidence that our phenibut is "weaker" than Liftmodes. There is also no scientifically valid evidence that Liftmode's is weaker than ours... for the inevitable post that will happen in a couple weeks saying that. We never "cheap out" to make more money. In fact, we often have to spend more money just to ensure a steady supply. We analytically test every single batch to death. If there is ever a time when I am not 100% confident in a batch, I hold it back till we can be absolutely sure. We lose money all the time because I hold things back till we can get extra verification, either from our own lab or one of the half dozen 3rd party ISO-certified labs we work with. Nothing I say here will stop any of these crazy claims, or the idea that we are just a faceless company out to make money off everyone, though. This cycle will keep repeating like my own fucked up groundhog day till either phenibut is banned, or I finally have a mental breakdown and go live with spider monkeys on the beach.