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Comment · Thu, July 2, 2020 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

Lion's Mane has been a godsend

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___Rand___ · 342 points

Lion's mane has been a godsend. It is nothing short of a small miracle. I've had cognitive issues and pain issues for 11 years since my last major TBI. I was improving due to a stack of nootropics.

Adding Lion's Mane to my stack has vastly improved my intellectual capacity. Today is my one month anniversary on Lion's Mane. My mental capacity has improved to a level I could only have dreamnt of! It has improved my cognition, vastly improved my short term memory, and mental stamina. I would no longer be exhausted after reading a few pages of books. I no longer gets headaches when encountering difficult scientific words (which I often do reading this sub or the scientific papers attached to articles). It has greatly improved my ability to learn and remember. I am recovering bits and fragments of lost long-term memories. Am I all the way back to my former intellect? No, but I am increasingly confident I will.

Many years ago doctors couldn't help me. I asked the universe for help. My prayers are being answered. I am ever so grateful. Thank you universe.

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rxdick · 1 points

thats great! i support your novel move. BUT, i may sound negative when i say that realmushrooms have 40+ years (from their story) in the business and if they say its not good economically for US to produce medicinal mushrooms, then they might be up to something. BUT, i dont wanna be pessimistic. I believe someone can eventually do this, in the US, and do a damn good job too. So, I support you fully my man!

One thing that came to mind though. Wouldnt it just collecting wild specimens be just as good idea? Internet is flooded with wild mushroom foragers, selling their whole mushrooms for cheap because they lack the labs and the ability to extract them most properly. If you have such technology, why not just support american mushroom hunters? Buy their wild medicinal mushrooms and extract and sell. Im pretty certain like most wild things, wild mushrooms can be as beneficial if not even more! From what I gather, some mushrooms are exact replica of their wild counterparts in bioactives. I mean people already use tons of variations of Cordyceps claiming it contains the same bioactives without going the extra mile collecting it wild which is hard and expensive. But thats special case, where actually collecting it in the wild is more expensive. Most of the other cultivated medicinal mushrooms have similar medicinal wild mushroom counterparts waiting to be used.

Just wondering anyw…

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

thats great! i support your novel move. BUT, i may sound negative when i say that realmushrooms have 40+ years (from their story) in the business and if they say its not good economically for US to produce medicinal mushrooms, then they might be up to something. BUT, i dont wanna be pessimistic. I believe someone can eventually do this, in the US, and do a damn good job too. So, I support you fully my man!

China will always be cheaper. There's no question about that. However, 25% tariffs now add up, and shipping has gone through the roof, too. Plus, people value US-made and low carbon emissions. So doing a US grow operation has never been more feasible than right now. It just takes a lot of money upfront to do. Maybe I lose money. Who knows. We will see what happens.

One thing that came to mind though. Wouldnt it just collecting wild specimens be just as good idea? Internet is flooded with wild mushroom foragers, selling their whole mushrooms for cheap because they lack the labs and the ability to extract them most properly. If you have such technology, why not just support american mushroom hunters?

That is nowhere near sustainable, nor can we control the growing conditions enough to meet our specs. Wild grown mushrooms might taste good, and you might get lucky with some for actives. However, growing them in very specific controlled environments on very specific growth media is VASTLY superior in the amount of actives in the mushrooms you can get. We have found that we can increase some things in the mushrooms by 1,000% by growing in certain ways. We are not just growing mushrooms. We are developing much more scientifically valid analytical methods for the active ingredients in them, then setting new standardizations based off that science. Just growing some mushrooms is not our plan. Growing very specific strains of mushrooms, in very specific ways, standardized to very specific things, and in amounts higher than anyone else, is our plan. There are TONS of different strains of each species of mushroom. We have found that some specific strains make way more actives than others. Same species, but different strain, which leads to very different end products. The only way to do that is to have your analytical lab work very closely with your R&D and production teams to create a process and product that meets those specs. I think people are going to be surprised at some of the stuff we are working on.

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