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Comment · Tue, March 3, 2020 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

black seed oil (1 month update)

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drythrowaway123 · 141 points

Its now been a month (sans a one week break) that I've been on BSO. The effects have remained the same and I couldn't be happier with it. My overall mood feels so much livelier and content than my baseline, and a general sense of feeling less anxious/dissociated. So much so that I was able to complete a video game, something I haven't done in almost a decade, due to lack of interest,depression and dissociation.

I've been thinking of buying the extract from ND to see if I can push the therapeutic effects of it any further and will try to do an update when I do.

original thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/euslhq/black_seed_oil_is_magical/

EDIT:

I'm using Heritage Store brand BSO.

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antitetico · 4 points

Thank you for correcting me. I completely forgot to consider your bulk powder prices, since the last time I looked at them, both ND and AH had different prices for their products. I was speaking somewhat out of line, not verifying all the prices.

You say you could bridge the gap between your bulk powder and AH's oil by increasing the max size; if so, I ask you to bring a larger size to market. As it stands, with daily use, it just doesn't make sense to spend more money on a product I take daily when I can get a better deal. With a better price-per-mg, I can look past the potentially lost other active ingredients in whole BSO, and would happily take my business to ND.

One more thing: it looks really bad to imply your competitors are dishonest regarding, or at best ignorant of, their products' quality when saying in the same message that consumers should just trust that your extract is higher in thymoquinone than you guarantee with lab results and in marketing.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot

You say you could bridge the gap between your bulk powder and AH's oil by increasing the max size; if so, I ask you to bring a larger size to market.

Many people don't realize, but smaller sizes cost more for vendors because of fixed packaging, bottling, and label costs. That's kind of the cost floor, as those are going to be fairly similar between the packaging between the sizes we are talking about. So any time you can increase the amount per bottle/jar, you are going to get better prices because you can amortize the fixed costs over more doses. I know some people realize that, but many people don't. That's the reason for smaller sizes costing more per mg. I can definitely speak to the team about adding a larger size of the powder.

I can look past the potentially lost other active ingredients in whole BSO, and would happily take my business to ND.

You are not really losing anything. Just because we standardize to thymoquinone does not mean that's all that is there. It's still a full spectrum extract of nigella sativa. It's just concentrated, standardized, and put into a powder.

One more thing: it looks really bad to imply your competitors are dishonest regarding, or at best ignorant of, their products' quality when saying in the same message that consumers should just trust that your extract is higher in thymoquinone than you guarantee with lab results and in marketing.

I was qualifying my statements to be more accurate for people reading. The reality of the situation is that most places don't properly test. People here sometimes take my statements as informed facts. So when I don't have data to back up the facts, I qualify them. If I am not sure of a measurement or data point, I state that when I am doing my claims or calculations. That way people reading know that I am making assumptions based on the validity of the data that I have not personally verified. They also clearly state that the thymoquinone content will vary naturally from batch-to-batch on their label. So I am not really sure which of my statements would be considered as calling them dishonest. Forgive me if I am missing something here.

I am also not telling people to trust me. I can show them our lab data showing the thymoquinone content of any specific batch. I have also tested competitor's products in our lab, along with some trademarked and patented black seed oils when we were developing our product. Not a single one met label claims in our testing. It took us a while to get ours to the level we wanted, too. So my hesitation to take other company's claims at face value is not misplaced. If you saw just how many things fail testing as I do, you likely would feel the same way. Again, I was not calling anyone out for any specific test in my comment above, though. I was just qualifying my calculations with the assumption that their numbers were accurate in the absence of hard data.

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