Comment · Tue, March 3, 2020 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
black seed oil (1 month update)
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drythrowaway123 · 141 points
Its now been a month (sans a one week break) that I've been on BSO. The effects have remained the same and I couldn't be happier with it. My overall mood feels so much livelier and content than my baseline, and a general sense of feeling less anxious/dissociated. So much so that I was able to complete a video game, something I haven't done in almost a decade, due to lack of interest,depression and dissociation.
I've been thinking of buying the extract from ND to see if I can push the therapeutic effects of it any further and will try to do an update when I do.
original thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/euslhq/black_seed_oil_is_magical/
EDIT:
I'm using Heritage Store brand BSO.
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antitetico · 8 points
As far as I understand, the extract from ND is just a worse value than the oil if it doesn't bug your stomach. Each capsule is labeled 200 mg, but only 5% of that is guaranteed to be thymoquinone. With Amazing Herb BSO, the thymoquinone content is 0.95%-2.6%, and at $~~25~~ 39, a 16 oz bottle contains ~90x5 g doses, each with at least 48 mg of thymoquinone. $~~25~~ 39 for 90 doses of 48 mg, vs $35 for 120 doses of 10 mg.
Otherwise, I completely agree with your accounts of BSO. I used it to cut down and quit kratom, which it worked well for. After being done with that, I was able to stop taking it daily with no significant withdrawals. I still do use it most days for the general mental health benefits. It quiets paranoia and anxiety, feels almost stimulatory without euphoria or any edge, plus it seems good for skin and hair health. I've been taking it for around 7 months now.
PS. There seems to be a fairly low ceiling of effect with it. Don't go chasing the bare floor of a high it gives you with 15+ g doses, there's no point, and it could possibly begin to have negative effects. We really don't know very much about BSO.
EDIT: Had an outdated price for 16 oz of BSO from Amazing Herb. I believe the value is still much greater with the BSO over the extract, but not quite as severely.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
You're comparing our capsules to their bottled oil. That's not like-for-like. You should compare our capsules to their softgels, then compare our powder to their oil. If you take out all the cost of encapsulation, of course bulk oil is going to be cheaper. Also, giving a range of 0.95%-2.6% means you are likely to be getting the lower end of that spectrum most of the time. Otherwise you would increase the numbers of your standardization if it was consistently coming in that far over. So we will use our minimum numbers as calculation, since ours will be over 5% all the time, too. NLT numbers are the only way to compare them in the absence of analytical data for that batch.
Their softgels: $18.99 for 45 doses. That's 42 cents a dose. A dose of theirs is 1,000mg at 0.95%. So you are getting 9.5mg of thymoquinone per dose. That's 4.4 cents per mg of thymoquinone.
Our capsules are $19.99 for 60 doses. That's 33 cents a dose. Our capsules are 200mg at 5%. So you are getting 10mg of thymoquinone per dose. That's 3.3 cents per mg of thymoquinone. So we are cheaper per dose and per mg of thymoquinone.
Now if we want to compare bulk oil to bulk powder we can do that too.
Their oil is $39.99 for 16oz. They say the normal price is $68, though. Could be BS, I don't know. They claim that a dose is 1 Tsp, which equals 5g. I have not done my own assessment of this weight, but we will assume it is true. That's 42.5 cents a dose. Each dose is 5,000mg at 0.95%. That's 47.5mg of thymoquinone per dose. That's just under a cent per mg of thymoquinone. Again, that is assuming their numbers are correct from a weight and % thymoquinone standpoint.
Our powder is easy. It's $26.99 for 20 grams. That's 1.3 cents per mg. At 5% thymoquinone content, you are looking at 2.6 cents per dose. So yes, more expensive per mg than their liquid, but not as big as comparing the smallest size of our capsules to a larger size of their liquid. If you compare the smallest size of our capsules to the smallest size of their softgels, we are cheaper. Also, I could probably bridge the gap between our powder and their liquid by offering a larger size option. Our largest powder size is $26.99. We are comparing that to their $39.99 liquid. If I offered a powder size closer to the $40 mark, I could get the price per mg of thymoquinone lower. Our offering is also an extract standardized specifically to thymoquinone. Theirs is a cold pressed oil that varies from batch to batch. It's not exactly comparing apples to apples, but the price disparity is not as big as you were alluding to.