Comment · Wed, November 7, 2018 · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
Reach Genius - Recommendation
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then00breaper · 0 points
They seem to have the real deal for everything they sell, even if they aren't investing much in things like packaging (super crappy, and they should spend more money in making it look nicer (the word "invest" doesn't exist in Swedish apparently...) but it's only packaging). They don't have third-party tests, but their supplier provides tests for them, and as I understand it their supplier does not manufacture the product, which is maybe a good thing? Still, third-party testing would obviously be good, but again they REALLY don't want to spend money if they aren't immediately making a profit, which shows their business acumen is somewhat lacking. Moreover, they aren't scientifically literate at all - they know next to nothing - but they seem to be doing everything correctly (the only two steps of importance are getting pure substances, and providing accurate dosages). Of course, nobody has checked against them yet, but this is all I've inferred from my private conversations with them.
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Just posting this on here so people know, though - if NootropicsDepot don't do it, these guys are the next safest bet! :) They certainly aren't perfect though, so I've made some criticisms…
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peptidehunter · 2 points
On the first part it seems more their stance than practice because they state.
Some of our products we have sent to Eurofins for the analysis, but most of them we haven't had to do it because Swedish >customs seized our products and analyzed them on import, before sending them to us. We don't want to publish documents >from the Swedish customs on our website, but I can see that when everything has been analyzed by Eurofins we will publish >it.
So they say swedish customs tests it for them and they test other products. Does anyone know if swedish customs actually does this? If the gov tests their products for free as long as the testing methods are valid I don't see an issue with this as long as someone is testing their products and they are pure. I would consider the gov a 3rd party source.
They also say they are registered as a supplement store in Sweden, but as Majalisk linked above that is false.
But you can't unregister if you were never registered to begin with can you? Maybe they changed business names? I honesty don't know but that alone doesn't mean they lied. Companies do change names sometimes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/8wt14u/reach_genius_swedish_company/e21yepi/ The COAs they linked >are from a Chinese supplier. I know exactly which one it is, but they are playing it off as a 3rd party COA.
I don't see anything on the dropbox links that…
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Natrium Health & Nootropics Depot
On the first part it seems more their stance than practice because they state.
If that's the case, they should show us the Eurofins report.
So they say swedish customs tests it for them and they test other products. Does anyone know if swedish customs actually does this? If the gov tests their products for free as long as the testing methods are valid I don't see an issue with this as long as someone is testing their products and they are pure. I would consider the gov a 3rd party source.
Swedish customs would test things for identity to allow/disallow them from entry into the country. It's not a purity/quality control thing for the vendor. US customs sometimes does the same thing. It's purely to allow/disallow entry, and to ensure it is not a scheduled substance. Trying to use that report as a reliable COA for product purity is not appropriate.
But you can't unregister if you were never registered to begin with can you? Maybe they changed business names? I honesty don't know but that alone doesn't mean they lied. Companies do change names sometimes.
Yes, that's a possibility.
I don't see anything on the dropbox links that mentions any supplier just a crude version of an hplc and MS spectrum test. Am I missing something? How do you know which supplier it is?
Hahahaha, they changed the Dropbox images and cropped out the fucking top part! Jesus Christ... Those images used to have a whole top section, and the vendor code was visible in the file name and method folder structure. Now they just cropped all that out and left the graph itself. Again, shady as hell. I saw the original images they posted when that thread popped up the first time, and I know exactly who their supplier is.
Again, I don't sell these things anymore, and I never will again. So I really don't care where people go to buy their peptides and bromantane. I just know they are not doing any testing, and the lies and changing things to cover up when people find out just makes it even more clear to me. I get that you want a supplier for the cooler compounds. I really do. Just be aware that you are not getting tested compounds with proper QA/QC procedures.