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Comment · Tue, March 7, 2017

Buy fasoracetam and become addicted to that instead of Phenibut (no withdrawal, long term anxiety treatment that becomes stronger every day)

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siedow · 11 points

This is just my theory. People who have experience with 50mg+ daily doses of fasoracetam in the long term? (>1 month)

Phenibut acts as a selective GABAB receptor agonist and as a blocker of α2δ subunit-containing voltage-gated calcium channels, similarly to gabapentin and pregabalin. The desired effects you get are relaxation and motivation, starting from 2 hours after dosing. The problem: you become tolerant, your GABA and dopamine system becomes sensitive to this and downregulates.

Fasoracetam on the other hand is a chemical of the racetam family. It's not a agonist and not an antagonist at the GABAB receptor, but it is known to make more GABAB receptors in your brain (=upregulation of GABAB) and by doing this you become more sensitive to your own GABA. You don't have the 'Phenibut' feeling instantly, but in the long term you build up a similar feeling by dosing every day. You also won't get a withdrawal, but your brain will eventually return to baseline.

I haven't gone through the experiment by dosing ONLY fasoracetam, but I have dosed phenibut + fasoracetam together (when I was a Phenibut addict) and I have noticed that my tolerance to phenibut built up much slo…

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kylekingsly · 1 points

Gotcha, thanks so much! This is a completely different question for you or anyone else to answer but would taking NMDA atagonists have an effect that negates or negatively interacts with fasoracetam's effect? I'm planning on trying 3-MeO-PCP, a RC dissoactive that has NMDA atagonist effects, soon but don't want to undo everything fasoracetam will be doing.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb

That's hard to say. I wouldn't think so, but we are talking some pretty complex mechanisms.

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