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Comment · Tue, June 14, 2016 · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

Threats from Brainstorm Nootropics / PowerFocus

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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 240 points

Some of you may have seen the new vendor post about a week ago for a new product called PowerFocus, from Brainpower Nootropics . The owner has deleted it now, but you can see the comments in the link below; minus the comments from the owner, which have either been edited or deleted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/4m6mpf/feedback_on_this_nootropic/

Now many of you know that I can be very critical of new companies that pop up with unfounded claims, over the top marketing, fake reviews, no purity testing, dangerous ingredients, etc. Lately others have been starting to jump in and question things too, which is a good thing. It shows that people are starting to push for higher standards in the industry. Admittedly, I can be a bit direct in some of my criticisms. Some may even call me an asshole. However, I do it because I care about the community and the people in it. The fact that it seems like a new company selling a nootropic stack pops up every week, makes these criticisms more frequent. I want this community to be safer, grow, and advance. New vendors creating quality products, doing proper testing, and not over-marketing the shit out of things, is the way to do th…

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NotHyplon · 3 points

I will be contacting the Leeds police department in the UK to discuss it with them. UK libel and defamation laws are a lot more strict, and him using his real personal Facebook page makes it pretty easy to link.

/u/MisterYouAreSoDumb you know i love you (and that sexy pork pie hat) and you know exactly who i am in RL but please think twice on this.

Few reasons:

1. The UK has clamped down on "libel tourism" making it much harder for foreign nationals to bring cases in the UK.

2. Facebook's servers are likely in the U.S so you get into a jurisdiction clusterfuck where you would have to get UK police to act against Facebooks EU office (which is probably in Ireland anyhow due to tax laws) only to be told it's hosted on a U.S server and therefore first ammendment.

3. Police really in the UK really don't act on this sort of thing unless they have to and computer based cases are backlogged. Even then Crown Prosecution Services are likely to kick it out as "not in the public's interest. I have a couple of friends in two different police forces and will run it by them but likely you will be given a run a round and then told "nah"

3. PBS (possibly) makes your products illegal. If you were a licensed pharma company then it might be different. Combine with 2 & 3 and CPS are almost certain to reject any criminal case the police put forward.

4. You can still go civil in the UK but…

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic & Nootropics Depot

Yeah, I was more thinking just having the local police stop by his house, and have a talk with him. I am not going to actually press charges, or start a civil suit. That's not worth it for anyone. However, perhaps the local PD would just have an impromptu talk with him, and let him know making libelous and slanderous claims is not a good idea. I'm certainly not going to try and ruin the dude's life for being an idiot. He just needs to be aware that type of thing is not acceptable.

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