Comment · Mon, March 2, 2015 · Ceretropic
TLR (True Life Research) Product Testing Results
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 200 points
As some of you may know, TLR has been selling proprietary compounds and extracts since they launched. That led a lot of people, including myself, to call them out on the practice. Who in their right mind would take something that they did not know the ingredients or chemical structure of?!? We also questioned their testing practices, which led to the owner telling customers that they did not need testing, and that people should just trust them. Again, more red flags. Then we had the owner threatening to sue us moderators for slander, libel, and defamation. There are other crazy things that people have made me aware of via private message. However, we will not get into that at the moment. Needless to say, I have been interested in testing their products for a while, and have been organizing to do just that. Today, we have those results.
Again, a big thanks to Nootropics Depot, for use of their lab in this testing.
Let's start with the most alarming results. Four of TLR's "proprietary" compounds have tested as Taurine powder. That's right, TLR has been selling ADJ01, MORP-OX, HDAC-OX, and ADDX-OX as proprietary compounds, yet they are just Taurine powder! They are touting their AD…
What they were answering
sowhatquestion · 2 points
Excellent work! I always knew there was something fishy about these guys! I had a private message debate (of sorts) with the owner last September about how fishy I thought it was to sell "proprietary" compounds with "secret" formulas. His justification for the practice was, to put it kindly, a whole lotta derp.
Here's an excerpt.
Me (9/9/14): I'm disturbed by the fact that you don't publish chemical formulas for some of your compounds, e.g., the cannabinoid modulators. I don't have any expertise in biochemistry or pharmacology, but many people on this forum do, and the only reason I'm willing to try experimental nootropics is because I trust they've survived the scrutiny of many well-informed people...
Also, I'm disturbed by the idea of offering discounts to particular individuals. [This is after he offered me a discount via PM.] I'm sure your intentions are good, but I want you to know that it doesn't come across very well. These substances are all highly experimental, and people who consume them should do so 100% voluntarily, without any special enticements. To put it bluntly, you don't want to look like a drug pusher!
Him (9/10/14): Is TLR a nootropics vendor? Is our Project and the model of how we conduct this Project that of anything remotely like any 'vendor'? TLR is not a 'vendor', at least in my perspective and I know that of many others. As well,…
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
Anything revolutionary will meet with initial challenge.
Notice a trend with all the people like this? It always devolves into an us vs them argument. "It's just that people are afraid of our advancement, and are pushing back." "It's our competitors trying to stop us." Blah blah blah. Any new business has challenges and setbacks. That is why most business fail. Real revolution catches like a wildfire. Real advancement is obvious to those around you, not just to you personally. If you really are doing something right, you will not be able to keep up with the business that follows. Excuses are for those that have deluded themselves into thinking they can do no wrong. Excuses are the preamble to failure.