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Comment · Sat, February 28, 2015 · Ceretropic

TLR (True Life Research) Product Testing Results

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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 200 points

As some of you may know, TLR has been selling proprietary compounds and extracts since they launched. That led a lot of people, including myself, to call them out on the practice. Who in their right mind would take something that they did not know the ingredients or chemical structure of?!? We also questioned their testing practices, which led to the owner telling customers that they did not need testing, and that people should just trust them. Again, more red flags. Then we had the owner threatening to sue us moderators for slander, libel, and defamation. There are other crazy things that people have made me aware of via private message. However, we will not get into that at the moment. Needless to say, I have been interested in testing their products for a while, and have been organizing to do just that. Today, we have those results.

Again, a big thanks to Nootropics Depot, for use of their lab in this testing.

Let's start with the most alarming results. Four of TLR's "proprietary" compounds have tested as Taurine powder. That's right, TLR has been selling ADJ01, MORP-OX, HDAC-OX, and ADDX-OX as proprietary compounds, yet they are just Taurine powder! They are touting their AD…

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NotHyplon · 1 points

I am looking into starting a nonprofit testing company, which can take over testing like this.

There was a fund raising drive a while back done through here. Is funding still needed? Also might i suggest if you do start something you stick yourself somewhere on the board but don't lead it to top people crying foul.

Given the location of ceretropic and ND someone could discredit you by saying your old buddies etc. Maybe you could reach out to some of the other vendors and get them on board?

Another option you could do for funding is a membership fee for vendors that requires regular testing etc. A bit like the Wi-Fi alliance is for Wi-Fi things, they don't make anything but anything with there label on it is guaranteed to work with the 802.11 standards.

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic

I knew people were going to claim bias when I made this post. I deal with it every time I do something like this. As I have always stated, if anyone else is willing to work with me, and do all the leg work, I can pay for the testing. It's just nobody ever comes forward to donate the time. That is the reason I am going to start a nonprofit. This post has already gotten around, and a lawyer has offered to do pro bono work to help us set it up. We were already looking into what it would take to do. With a lawyer, it will make things go a lot faster.

My ultimate goal is to create an organization like USP, but for Nootropics. This would be an organization that goes out and tests all sorts of supplement and nootropic products for purity and safety. We could even then get companies on board, to be certified, like USP does. There are many different funding streams we could look at to accomplish that. The initial investment for equipment would most likely be from my pocket, to get the equipment needed to start. We were already building our own testing lab. We might as well do it all under a nonprofit, so we have more flexibility in what we can do.

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