Comment · Fri, January 23, 2015 · Ceretropic
I spent 3 days dosing 50ml total of P21 solution through a nasal spray. Sunday, monday, and Tuesday.
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FirstP21use · 20 points
Subjective positive experience all around
Today is Thursday
I took 50ml in 2-4ml doses around every hour, to every half an hour. The entire smaller vial that ceretropic sells. It was not intentional. I miscalculated the nasal sprays dose per spray.
Obvious effects:
The right hands fine motor skills improved slowly. It had deteriorated after a third arm dislocation in the winter of 2014.
I felt tingling through the arm to the Ring finger and Little finger before the improvement begun.
It felt like time was slowing down. I've had the subjectively longest four days of the past four years.
It was easier to pay attention to life. Events are more vivid. Newly made memories seem stronger.
The concentration meditation practice improved noticeably. It was easier to practice, states lasted longer, and needed less direction from me.
I felt like napping during the first two days
I'm going to start small dosing in either 4 or 8 weeks time. 2ml IM or 4ml in a nasal spray daily.
I'll track the cognitive development with one of each Cambridge brain science test type. At the same time, every day. I'm still thinking about the most reliable timing. Probably after waking up.
I hope to see…
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Aket-ten · 1 points
That's really neat, have you encountered any negative side effects from your P21 usage? I recently placed an order for another Semax 200mcg and a sampler pack, really excited to try the tianeptine for the first time. If I may ask, how pronounced is the mood effect from tianeptine for you and do you believe it had synergistic effects with Semax since the latter does release serotonin?
Your stack seems interesting and I recall you mentioning that you have an overall good impression on memantine. Do you think adding memantine to your stack would be beneficial?
I'm asking since I want to use some of the memantine to reverse my tolerance to my once a week amphetamines/methylphenidate use but am not sure whether it's a good idea to go on both memantine and my other nootropics.
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
Semax and Tianeptine go great together. The mood increase is rapid, and very noticeable. However, some people get irritable with Tianeptine, and Semax can exacerbate that. My girlfriend is one that gets irritable with Tianeptine, but likes Semax on its own.
Only negative side effect from P21 is tiredness. I did the get tingling in the finger that OP did the first few times I used it. However, that stopped after the first couple days. I've taken 4mg P21 today, and I am a bit tired at the moment. That usually happens when you get to 4mg. Not sure on why. People get the same effect from high dosages of Cerebrolysin too.
Memantine is great for some, and causes too much brainfog for others. I would consider adding back in Memantine, if I ceased use of nicotine. I find combining them causes to many issues.