Comment · Wed, November 27, 2013 · Ceretropic
Cerebral Health Pyritinol (New Test Results)
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MisterYouAreSoDumb · 137 points
We have finally identified the substance that Cerebral Health was selling as pyritinol, which has sent one person to the hospital, and caused adverse reactions in half a dozen other people so far. The results are very surprising, as I never would have guessed it. It turns out the substance is diphenhydramine, also known as Benadryl. Diphenhydramine has anticholinergic and serotonergic effects, and has been known to cause seizures in higher doses. So essentially people were overdosing on a deliriant. You can read reports of people taking large doses of it online, and it does not seem like a very pleasurable experience.
So far Cerebral Health has not taken any steps to address the issue. I've gone back and forth with the owner Doug on Longecity for a while now, and the exchange has pretty much been a PR disaster for him. Not only has he been rude and dismissive, but he has threatened myself and the lab manager of the first lab we used to do the testing with litigation. On top of that, he insulted the lab managers education, and generally has been a total asshole throughout this whole incident. It's definitely not the…
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noopau · 21 points
MisterYouAreSoDumb,
Just wanted to send a thank you for the efforts dealing with the CH issue and your testing efforts all round. Great work!
Having been involved with nootropics for more than half my life, in that time I have seen communities and interest ebb and flow, a LOT of fly by night operations come and go, a lot of very good operations disappear too, I’ve seen mail order forms you had to fax in to get rare pharmacy only medication turn to buying on power from random sources on ebay, I know of death and serious issues from misuse and many instances of mislabelled/sent substances putting people a risk as well as causing serious harm. Today is the FIRST time I have seen REAL testing produce such startlingly conclusive EVIDENCE of such amazing neglect and error, WOW.
The industry/community will probably always be on the fringes out of necessity for its survival, having people like yourself pioneering accessible testing in the open and setting the bar high are a godsend for everyone.
You have saved many lives! Thank you to you and everyone else involved in this. You should be proud!
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · Ceretropic
Thank you! It's my pleasure.