Comment · Thu, March 6, 2025 · ND Owner
A petition to keep powders
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biohackd · 97 points
Either ND are having some apocalyptic stock issues, or they are completely eliminating powders from their line-up altogether:
Ginseng Leaf powder - out of stock
Ginseng Root powder - out of stock
Rhodiola 3% Rosavins Powder - out of stock
Rhodiola 3% Salidrosides powder - out of stock
Red reishi ultra concentrated powder - out of stock
Red Reishi 8:1 powder - out of stock
Holy basil - out of stock for 3+ months now
Coq10 powder - out of stock
I could go on...
I appreciate powders do not sell well compared to capsules but I AM BEGGING YOU ND DO NOT PHASE THEM OUT - you are going to alienate the guys that have been with you from the start.
Do not pander to the TikTok generation!
NootropicsDepot was always about being modular, the freedom to create your own stacks and giving people more choice not less.
Stay true to your DNA and do what you know is right - not what is most profitable. You are more than a business, goddamn it!
Please don't make me pay 2x for vegetable cellulose.
Surely I'm not the only one??
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MrRADicalKMS · 7 points
I have a note in my phone with companies to avoid, and already had all those but Ultima, Zhou, Double Wood, and Primal Harvest, so thanks for those four! As I said in a comment on here, one of the other things that sucks about this is that the samples are out of stock too. If you aren't going to replace the samples that use powders, can you guys please release versions that will be in stock then? I wanted to get the Ashwagandha and Panax Ginseng sample packs, but they are out of stock. I instead ordered, and just recieved, the "Ayurvedic Herbs Capsules" sample pack, which I mostly got so I could try Shilajit. Also, who is LVMH? Is he well known for doing shady things? I've never heard of him before.
Anyways, I am using Jarrow right now, but it's only their SAM-e. I also just got Gaia Herbs Oil of Oregano, but for the most part I've started using your guy's stuf exclusively. I've bought a few powders, Polygala (barely have taken it), Schisandra, Magnesium Glycinate, and Creatine, but that's the only option for that anyways. I was planning on maybe getting some more powders too. I mostly like that you usually get more for less cost. I wouldn't go to another brand for that unless yours specifically didn't work for me. The convenience of capsules and tablets can't be overlooked though. I want to buy everything in a powder that has a powder form available, but I struggle with gett…
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
The people that bought Thorne are actually L Catterton, which is the investment arm of LVMH. That's the massive luxury company that owns Luis Vuitton, Moet and Chandon, Hennessy, Sephora, Tiffany, Bulgari, etc. It's just a very large multinational conglomerate that is focused on profits in luxury spaces. They bought Thorne for the name, because it is considered a high end supplement brand. However, it was considered a high end supplement brand because they actually put people that cared into the scientific positions, and held things to a certain standard. Well when big companies buy names like this, they don't care about the expensive shit that went into making the brand. They care about extracting as much profit as possible from it. It's happening across the entire industry right now.
I get what you are saying about strategies to help promote powders more. However, the issue with trying to force the market where you want it to go is that it most often fails. We are coming up on 12 years of operations now. We have learned the hard lessons on things. In the past, we have tried to get consumers to be interested in the things we thought they should be. However, we quickly learned that you have to go where the market is telling you it wants to go, not try to force it to go where you want it to go. I will say that we are implementing a bunch of new tools right now that will help us to get actionable data to make decisions. Perhaps some of these new tools will help us to get in front of people better. This might allow us to move products that otherwise wouldn't. It's a big push for us to become a more data-driven company. Hopefully that will help us to improve efficiency and find ways to reach new people with our message and mission.