Comment · Sat, January 4, 2025 · ND Owner
ND & Greg Doucette Partnership…
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NaturalNormal9290 · 60 points
Gotta admit I was not expecting this one. Not necessarily that I’m a Greg hater, I’m just skeptical of fitness influencers that pedal the latest trend. I’m looking for to the upcoming ND pod with him on. It’ll be interesting to see the outcome. Especially, if I recall, since ND tested his products and they weren’t up to par.
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BobdDon99 · 2 points
So is your team generally not a believer in the muscle protein synthesis effects of Turkesterone?
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I do think it has that effect, similar to beta-ecdysterone. However, the levels we are seeing are too low to be clinically significant at the doses being used, IMO. Just look at the structures.
There is just one oxygen difference. It's our opinion that they are most likely similar in potency. Then you look at our beta-ecdysterone product. It has 250mg of beta-ecdysterone per dose. In fact, we tested our product for turkesterone, too. We found 6mg per dose. The Turk Builder Max product has 16mg turkesterone per dose, and 22mg beta-ecdysterone. However, their product is from Ajuga turkestanica. Ours is from Cyanotis arachnoidea. Their product feels very different than ours, so there is something else going on. There is much more stimulating/wakefulness promoting. I don't think that is from the extra 10mg turkesterone.