Comment · Thu, January 2, 2025 · ND Owner
ND & Greg Doucette Partnership…
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NaturalNormal9290 · 60 points
Gotta admit I was not expecting this one. Not necessarily that I’m a Greg hater, I’m just skeptical of fitness influencers that pedal the latest trend. I’m looking for to the upcoming ND pod with him on. It’ll be interesting to see the outcome. Especially, if I recall, since ND tested his products and they weren’t up to par.
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OPengiun · 22 points
I'd bet that ND marketing dept crunched the numbers and realized that the fitness/body building niche is making the most money... which is my opinion why they've been releasing a bunch of calorie burning shit recently--CaloriBurn, MitoBurn, BerbeLEAN, etc...
On paper, it makes sense. The nootropics crowd is much smaller than the fitness crowd. There is a crossover between the two, and it is growing larger every day. But the biz needs to go where the money is, and it is in fitness/body building.
Considering Greg's audience on insta and YT alone surpasses 3 MILLION, it is a good strategic step for ND to partner up and expose his audience to their products.
You could almost say that products like CaloriBurn, MitoBurn, BerbeLEAN were laying the groundwork for his audience to be shown later in 2025.
Just my 2 cents...
u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner
I care about the science, lab testing, and research and development. Doing that right costs a LOT of money. Like it or not, we have to fund those operations. The fitness and bodybuilding supplements actually sell. It does nobody any good if we don't sell products, because then I can't fund the science. Also, longevity and cognition is just a more complex situation, and I don't like half-assing things. When we bring out new nootropics, I want that to be from a place of sound science. That takes time. Our cell culture lab is a big part of that. It doesn't mean I have turned my back on nootropics like some people have said. Far from it. I am still one of the only ones actually pushing the space forward. I am just doing it in the background in a slow and methodical way.
Hell, look at all the brands selling the novel shit we developed on Ceretropic back in the day. None of them understand it. None of them are actually pushing our understanding forward. They are capitalizing on hype to make money. I just got a Facebook advertisement for oral BPC-157, with a guy saying that it healed his torn knee ligament in 6 days, and he ran 100 mile race after. Liar liar fucking pants on fire! Anyone with half a brain would know that BPC-157 is a great healing peptide when INJECTED LOCALLY TO THE SITE OF INJURY. Moreover, 6 days ain't shit for healing a place on the body that lacks the appropriate blood vessels. That's part of what BPC-157 does, by increasing angiogenesis. These stupid fucks don't understand the chemistry or physiology of it. They are just lying to people to make money. Hell, I created and named the peptide Adamax. Now people are selling a bastardized thing they are calling the same name, but I never told people how to actually make it. It's my peptide! They are just selling what some Chinese seller is telling them is Adamax. I made even more novel peptides that were insanely effective that I never told anyone about or released. Maybe someday. But we are so far ahead of where we were with Ceretropic, it's not even close. The science we are doing these days is beyond what I could have dreamed back then.
But you are correct in saying that nothing we do matters unless we get in front of more eyes. I can do the coolest shit imaginable, and make the most advanced products possible. If nobody sees them or cares, then it all dies. We need more people to care about the science, and I am hoping collaborations like this might do that. In the end, the science is all that matters, and we will never stray from that.