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Comment · Fri, August 26, 2022 · ND Owner

For those of you taking ND’s beta-ecdysterone:

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AnabolicGreyhound · 23 points

- Have you noticed any tangible improvements to health markers? I.e., strength adaptions, rate of hypertrophy, recovery, or changes to bloodwork.

- Do you combine doses with other supplements or specific foods?

- Pre or post workout?

- Anyone experienced sides or cognitive effects?

Personally, I have been supplementing post workout with Schisandra and meal high in protein.

It’s too early to ascertain any impact it is or is not having as have only been supplementing a week, although I am aware numerous members of the community have been using ecdysterone for sometime now and would be interested to hear reports.

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alainneedle1 · 2 points

By posting the link above my intention was not to pinpoint if one specific company is doing what they're suppose to do or not as I understand exactly what you're talking about, I don't live in La La land.

There is recalls all the time, food industries (because of contaminants, E.coli), car manufacturer (safety concerns), construction industries (drywall from China with high levels of sulfur) and more including pharmaceutical companies like the one you mentioned above, but some do or at least are trying to play by the rules as much as possible, are they all mistake or error-proofing, absolutely not, the bottom line of all profitable industries is and will always be the Benjamin $$.

My main concern is labeling, they all should (in a perfect world) have all the ingredients listed on the label and I mean all, including % wise but how many companies will disclose only a part of what's in their products without disclosing the rest of it.

The reason I will be sending you a sealed pouch of ecdysterone from Axenic is because you are welling to analyze it to get to the bottom of their claim, let's see what's in it, lets see if they are selling (as they claim) pharmaceutical grade ecdysterone at 96%, lets assume their ecdysterone is at 96% pure...case closed...but after analyzing it if their ecdysterone is only at 50% purity for example, what else is mixed with it, what product(s) t…

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

For sure. I was just highlighting the fact that the pharma industry is not some paragon of perfection regarding lab testing or quality control as many people assume. Is the average pharma company better than the average supplement company? I would hope so, but I also know how difficult and expensive it is to do things right. In a perfect world all supplements would have what they claim on the label, too. We don't live in a perfect world, unfortunately. We'll see what we find. I would bet money it doesn't meet label claims, though.

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