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Comment · Thu, August 11, 2022 · ND Owner

For those of you taking ND’s beta-ecdysterone:

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AnabolicGreyhound · 23 points

- Have you noticed any tangible improvements to health markers? I.e., strength adaptions, rate of hypertrophy, recovery, or changes to bloodwork.

- Do you combine doses with other supplements or specific foods?

- Pre or post workout?

- Anyone experienced sides or cognitive effects?

Personally, I have been supplementing post workout with Schisandra and meal high in protein.

It’s too early to ascertain any impact it is or is not having as have only been supplementing a week, although I am aware numerous members of the community have been using ecdysterone for sometime now and would be interested to hear reports.

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TheOptimizzzer · 2 points

How would you compare to something like Tart Cherry here? I would guess since BE is acting through different pathways to achieve this (anabolic ones), it would be more likely to decrease DOMS while also increasing muscle growth to some degree? Whereas tart cherry would help DOMS but potentially negatively impact muscle growth if consistently taken too close to the time of muscle damage (workout)? Is this a good way to think about it?

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Two very different mechanisms, but I think the beta-ecdysterone is more effective for post-workout DOMS than tart cherry. Activation of the Mas receptor is a really direct way to inhibit that signaling cascade that results in bad muscle soreness. Yeah, I would say taking tart cherry before the workout will have a higher likelihood of negatively impacting muscle growth, which is why we suggest taking it an hour after the workout. I think beta-ecdysterone is a better one to take before/during the workout. I'd have to do some testing on that one, though.

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