Skip to content

Comment · Wed, June 22, 2022 · ND Owner

Tongkat Ali 2% different bottle/color - any difference in effectiveness?

What they were answering

Spirited_Gap7644 · 1 points

Curious as to whether hygroscopic substances lose potency after being saturated with moisture any amount? Even if small?

u/MisterYouAreSoDumb · ND Owner

Short answer: no. Long answer: sometimes. LOL

Most things are not susceptible to hydrolysis from moisture in the air, so water is just going to add weight. You can usually just desiccate the water out, or use a vacuum oven to evaporate it out, and everything is fine. In fact, some molecules just naturally have higher water content, and they are stable like that. Berberine is one. Then you have different forms of things, like hydrate, dihydrate, or even trihydrate forms. This is how much water is bound in the crystal structure of the compound. People are probably familiar with creatine monohydrate. Then you have anhydrous forms, or forms of a molecule where the water has been completely removed. We do loss on drying analysis on all our raw materials to ensure it is in spec, which is also how you report "dry basis" assay results. You can actually see water in FTIR spectra, and even in our mass spec data. You can see the water molecules being fragmented after being hit with ionized particles. It's pretty sweet!

So what do I mean by sometimes? Well some things are sensitive to degradation by hydrolysis. Peptides are especially so, because they are not bound together by covalent bonds like other molecules. They are weaker peptide bonds, so if your material has a bunch of active peptides in it, then perhaps getting too much water in it will affect potency. It really depends on the specific peptide, though. Certain amino acids are more susceptible to hydrolysis. This is also very much pH dependent. Higher pH generally catalyzes it more than low pH. Water absorbed from the air will be neutral, so generally not super bad. Also, just because it can happen doesn't mean it will happen fast. Maybe it breaks down half of the peptide in a year. We are not talking days or weeks. Even so, this would be a rare thing, and it would not affect 99% of the small molecule organic compounds that are the main actives.

Other MYASD lines in this thread

Related in the archive

Commentr/NootropicsDepotApr 13, 2022

Sigma - New supplement containing Tongkat Ali made in collaboration with A.Huberman.

Replying to MorePlates_MoreDates · I commented this on the subreddit thread that was crossposted from this original post, and let me just preface this with I do not believe I'm infallible, and we have in the past up

I want to start by saying kudos for not immediately attacking me. That's usually what happens in these cases, and it's nice to have that not be the case this time. You wrote a lot of things, but I want to focus on the mo

41Tongkat aliPeptidesGinseng
Commentr/NootropicsDepotMar 11, 2026

Hmmm... Not Disingenuous Or Slanderous At All!

Yeah, they have been lying about us and defrauding consumers for years. Akarali sells Physta, which is the same thing as LJ100. Their owner even made fake reviews about us on Trustpilot using his real name and picture, w

28Tongkat aliPeptides
Commentr/NootropicsDepotJul 31, 2025

⚠️ NEW PRODUCTS ALERT | Cyatherm Capsules, Lucidimax Capsules, Peruvian Black Maca Powder, Mushroom Magic Powder, Mushroom Magic Advanced Powder, & TUDCA Capsules⚠️

Replying to AdvisorHead8533 · Ordered a big bottle of CyaTherm, Lucidimax, Peruvian Black Maca and TUDCA. Going to take about a week to try these in isolation and see how my body and mind responds to these awes

I talked in detail about the maca in this comment: https://old.reddit.com/r/NootropicsDepot/comments/1me780g/new_products_alert_cyatherm_capsules_lucidimax/n68y7sr/ So you might have to wait for Emiel to get back for a

20Tongkat aliPeptidesShilajit
Commentr/NootropicsDepotJul 16, 2021

Stoked to try Tongkat Ali

Replying to Puzzleheaded_Tie6775 · Dude I’m not saying that you did it personally god damn. What a way to reply. People can hire others to do things like this. Also I know that you’re involved but I have no idea if

So it wasn't me personally doing it, but it was me having my employees do it for me? I am not a dickhead, but on second thought I actually am? Come on man... Get upset all you want. The fact of the matter is that you wer

16Tongkat aliPeptidesKratom
Commentr/NootropicsDepotAug 1, 2020

⚠️ New Product Alert: Tongkat Ali Extract Capsules | 200mg | 2% Eurycomanone ⚠️

Replying to quick_buck · How does this product compares to a 100:1 and 200:1 extracts on the market is it more/less potent?

So first off, those extraction ratios are BULLSHIT! Total bullshit. They are made up to trick everyone. The 100:1 is more like a 4:1, and the 200:1 is more like an 8:1. If you see someone selling 100:1 or 200:1 RUN AWAY

12Tongkat aliPeptides
Commentr/NootropicsDepotMar 11, 2026

how legitimate is a 22 percent Eurycomanones in a tongkat ali supplement?

Replying to kusomisoyaranaika · I just called the company and spoke to the head chemist for over an hour. After telling her about all the information that I gathered from everyone here, and telling her that I wou

Eurypeptides are fake. They don't exist. Those numbers literally come from a single study that used the Lowry's total protein assay, which then they just take that total protein number and call it eurypeptides. For one,

9Tongkat aliMagnesiumPeptides